It must be genetics. I don't doubt the efficacy of the Taube method, but I've seen too many people who eat mostly carbs, sometimes polished rice. My mother, after being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes over 10 years ago, and who also had one heart attack, switched to a very low fat, low salt, high vegetable, lot of chicken and lots and lots of rice (she buys rice in 20 lb bags) and has lost a great deal of weight and kept it off, as well as helping her heart and blood sugar. (She is Filipina.) I lived in both north and south India in the '60s, as a boy, and the poor people ate mostly whole wheat (Delhi) and polished rice (Bangalore) plus lentils, vegetables and a bit of fish or meat on special occasions. Ditto in Karachi, Pakistan. In Kenya, where we moved next, the poor ate mostly posho -- corn meal mush. Often the women would be hefty, but rarely obese; them men less heavy (but taller, of course). Add banana or millet beer or, for the townies, Tusker. My ex parents in law are Taiwanese: noodles, steamed bread and rice in abundance, tho' they being American now can afford more fish, eggs and meat. Of course, all this lot -- Indians, Pakis, Kenyans, Filipinos, Chinese -- are of a class that moves around a lot and often does manual labor; and many of them can't afford to overeat even cheap grains and lentils.
I dunno. I believe those who have said they gained weight on carbs, lost them on no carbs. But there is the above for other people; not to mention the Irish peasants who, I've read in more than one place, ate (for the working man) an average of 11 lb of high glycemic (Mom won't eat them) potatoes a day, with little else beside a bit of skim milk and salt. I eat indiscriminately except I don't eat huge amount of meat -- but lots of cheese -- and thank God am 20 lb heavier than I was in college at the same weight (I could lose 10 or 15 easily but I'd be pretty thin). One sister is like me on a largely vegetarian and rice diet; another sister and my brother are heavier, but not obese, on eclectic diets that include a lot of everything except meat (meat is not foregone, just rare). An interesting aside: reading the autobiography of Thomas Merton (Seven Story Mountain) he describes living in rural France in the 1920s and '30s with his widowed artist father and he describes a peasant wedding feast where no one ate anything except huge quantities of a huge variety of meats, because they never ate meat for most of the rest of the year. (He also describes the Tour coming through his town, grinding up a dirt hill doubtless in a single gear, "with noses almost touching their front wheels.") On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:00 PM, charlie <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Patrick.....yea I work with about thirty Vietnamese/Chinese and I > see what they eat everyday. Mostly meat or seafood/shellfish and or > eggs plus some kind of weird vegetabley soup like stuff they dribble > over a tiny ice cream scoop size ball of rice. Most rarely (if ever) > eat sugar in the form of cookies, candy, soda or cake etc. They seem > to shun most American foods including fast food.....at least the ones > who arrived here more recently. They often make a big deal ( some > religious thing) of cooking a whole pig underground and rarely throw > any of it away. At larger gatherings they eat more fresh vegetables > and fruits and the meals are more elaborate with roast duck or shark > fin soup being popular. Sometimes they have the Pho soup with the > rice noodles but most focus on the meat and often leave the broth. > They drink quite a bit of green tea but smoke like freight trains. > During celebrations they drink large amounts of beer and shots of > cognac and never seem to get fat.....when I joined them at the casino > weekly over several months, I gained 20 pounds shooting up to 282 at > my fattest. There is something to be said for genetics. > > On Aug 31, 4:51 pm, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: >> What do all those Chinese, South Indians, Filipinos and Japanese >> (among others) have to say about the last part of this sentence? >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM, charlie <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> what I get from reading Taubes/Marks Daily Apple/ Paleo etc. >> >> > is to eat high protein, good fats, fresh vegetables (the leafy green >> > kind) berries,certain nuts, and some fruits >> >> **and avoid all starchy carbohydrates bread, potatoes, corn, rice, >> sugar..... basically eat a healthy diet.** > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
