On Monday, September 12, 2011 11:17:25 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
>
> On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 09:11 -0700, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
> > Hmmm... here's what I hope it isn't: a "trekking" bar. Those tend to
> > meet my primary criteria for a bar: height. 
>
> I don't understand.  The height of the bar has little to do with the bar
> itself, much more to do with the stem or the spacer stack and steerer.
> There are (to some, rather hideous) photos aplenty of Rivendells with
> drop bars easily 4" above the saddle.  
>
 
If you have already chosen a steerer and are using a maxed-out Dirt Drop 100 
and don't want a steerer extender, then yep... the bar makes the difference. 
Now, in fact I'm less concerned about bar-height than I used to be. But a 
bar with 75cm rise generally more interesting to me than one with no rise. I 
might be free to use something other than a Dirt Drop 100 with something 
with sufficient rise. (Currently have an Albatross/maxed-out-Tallux that I 
like.)
 

> > My cockpits range from about 1" to about 4" above my saddle... those
> > are inches, not centimeters. But every trekking style bar I've seen
> > (including the Nitto) was so fundamentally unattractive that I
> > wouldn't want to use it even if it cost only $30. My opinion, of
> > course. And I realize I may be denying myself the most luxurious
> > mind-blowingly blissful riding experience known to man. But frankly,
> > each handlebar I have has provided a pretty darn good riding
> > experience. I don't lack for them. Except for the one that came on my
> > Trek Hybrid. Ugh. 
>
> What makes for an attractive bar, for you? 
>
>  
>
 
Silver. Big sweeping curves. Wide. There are limits of course; I like the 
Bullmoose but don't care for the looks of the Noah's Arc so much. The 
Bullmoose's busy-ness is better there; the Arc looks empty. Some 
good-looking-to-me bars (like the Soma Lauterwasser (sp?)) don't look like I 
would be comfortable because, even with a maxed-out Dirt Drop, the only 
place I'd be comfortable looks like it would be too low. The Moustache is 
fine. I'd probably try the Lauterwasser, though, if I didn't know about the 
Moustache.
 
Counter-example: My hybrid's original bar was black and had a tight twisty 
sort of compound curve between the clamp area and each hand grip. Though it 
is symmetrical, it almost looks crooked. It's not hideous in an 
outrageous grotesque sort of way (like some-not-me might find my on-up-there 
bars!). There's just nothing good-looking about it.
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
 

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