I'm happy that your happy that you carry 80 lbs.of gear and love every
minute of it. I'm happy that I'm happy that I can carry 20 lbs. under
the same circumstances and do everything you can do. So Happy Trails
to You. Chain whip and all.

On Sep 22, 1:31 pm, Kelly Sleeper <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ok fasten your seat belt.    Here I go.. really I assure you that I only
> speak for myself and my own desires and moments.  I also am tired .. OH OH
> so TIRED of people telling me I or others that they carry to much weight on
> a touring trip.  
>
> You weight weeny tour bikers can kiss my (insert here what you think I
> think)  Ok I'm not that passionate about it.. however I don't get the weight
> weeny obsession for so many people when touring.    Are you in that big of a
> hurry?    
>
> Great and I'm all for you being minimalist.   Have fun.. just don't tell me
> I'm doing it wrong because you do it differently.   I like having my 25 foot
> extension cord, my laptop, charging accessories and smart phone.  I like
> having the ability to sit in my tent during a long storm and watching tv on
> the internet.
> I don't mind pedaling with 80 lbs of gear on the bike.  I'm only traveling
> 50 to 60 miles a day anyway... look to average about 10 mph and just toodle
> along.. and you will tell me I carry to much...  
>
> Humm.. hurricane goes through and then you are looking at 20 degree temp
> drop .. and continuous down pours for two days.. having good cooking
> equipment.. cans of soup.. laptop.. rain gear warmer clothes was all
> great...
>
> Oh wait no showers and really sweaty and dirty.. sure was nice having a
> solar shower to clean up with including the soap....  the traveling partners
> didn't mind borrowing the shower...
> Getting dark.. 80 miles in .. calling it a day.. setup the laptop .. log
> into home tv with sling box and watch tv.. while waiting on a pizza to be
> delivered... traveling companions gathered round to watch.. and wonder if
> this was really roughing it...
>
> Oh wait nice water ahead.. sweet.. I have a swimming suit.. towel and water
> shoes just for this.. (gotta love crocs at times)  Sorry traveling companion
> not sharing this.
>
> Yes my repair bag is 15 lbs... with extra rear derailur .. chain whip, wire
> cutters, cables, chain links, cassette, front derailur and other assorted
> junk I hope not to need..
>
> Well no it's not roughing it.. not supposed to be rough.. I'm on vacation..
> enjoying travel by bicycle... not setting some record, or challenging some
> super duper worm waggle .. snail jump worlds competition anyway.
>
> Especially here where you ride bikes in a style that is heavier and slower
> than the racing counter parts I would think you would see that weight is not
> that big a deal.  (hold it before you start.. passing kit clad wannabe's
> isn't passing a racer going after it)  When trying to ride in the moderate
> speed ranges weight of very little concern.  Or insert moderate execration
> levels non racing lets enjoy the bike stuff.   This sentence is a deep dark
> rat hole I should delete but won't.. so ignore it or get it but don't argue
> it with me on this thread please... see I even used the word please.
>
> I've traveled with 4 full panniers and a trailer hauling a plastic bike and
> the average speed didn't change much from just going without the trailer and
> bike.  Same arguments made for bigger tires... comfort..
>
> I want comfort on the road.. extra shoes in case one pair gets wet.  larger
> tent for getting all my gear inside or repacking or long days of torrential
> storms.
>
> I want clothing that covers the 90 degree day I had today and the rainy cold
> 40 degree (feeling like 20) day I'm going to end up with tomorrow.  
>
> I carry more weight on a century ride than some of you do for cross country.
>
> I don't care how little you carry or what you might be able to do without..
> it's not a challenge .. just pack what you think you want.  If you don't
> want to carry it a day or two in stop at UPS and send some home.   My only
> point is that you don't have to worry about weight so much.. it's not that
> big of a deal in most situations.
> Ya I know for every rule ... there  is the exception.. exemptions to the
> rule does  not make the rule invalid.
>
> So make fun of the heavy haulers all you want... I'm a proud one and want
> you potential bike tourers to know it's ok and not a bad thing to go
> prepared and comfy.  (insert heavy and comfy instead of prepared and avoid
> conflict)
>
> So here are some touring photos
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157627604208847/
> different bikes and different times.. progression.. whatever.. figure photos
> are the reward for reading my rant.
>
> It's fun and weight is so NOT a thing to worry about.
>
> Kelly

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