The springs on the Flyer on my Atlantis squeak, too, but I find it soothing 
somehow.  They're definitely responding to bumps etc (i'm 190 or so).  And 
despite the fact that my Flyer is carved for decoration (I know, I know -- I 
can be a bit of a dandy), the leather has held up extremely well.  Never wet, 
though.

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Shine
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 9:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: B-17 vs Flyer

At 180 pounds, the springs on my Flyer barely and rarely compress enough to 
feel or even sense. I am still riding the "old" way, by shifting weight onto 
the pedals if I see a pot hole, tracks, sharp curb, etc.  For me and my riding 
style, the springs are virtually useless. The leather on my Flyer is not at all 
saggy. Quite the opposite. It is the hardest Brooks I have ever owned (and, 
frankly, the most attractive in terms of brown tints and tones). The saddle is 
heavy, also. All that said, I still have it mounted on my Quickbeam for some 
reason.

________________________________
From: cyclotourist <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, October 6, 2011 9:09:56 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: B-17 vs Flyer

I found the leather on two different Flyer saddles to stretch and lose tension 
really quickly.  And the springs were always annoyingly squeaky.  Don't know 
about the rail lenghts.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Joe Bernard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This is a fuzzy memory from 5 years ago, but I would estimate the difference is 
about a centimeter. Grant is right about the springs: At 160lbs. back then (oh, 
glory days), the only difference between the two saddles was looks and weight. 
Those springs didn't even buzz for me.

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