Good points, Greg. I've just tonight been going through some old RRs and catalogues... confirmed I still have all from the first few years, and only missing a couple of later issues (they must be around here somewhere!)
But this thread has been a trove of nuggets on the "early" years of Riv frames. And I'm enjoying every small detail that's brought forth. - Andrew, Berkeley On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Greg J <gregkj...@gmail.com> wrote: > Perhaps stating the obvious, but: > > Just because it is that Atlantis color doesn't make it an Atlantis. I > doubt that the seller would call it a Long-Low if it says Atlantis on the > downtube. Atlantis was derived as a lower-cost A/R, built by Toyo in Japan > and intentionally given a different name (Atlantis) to distinguish it from > a Rivendell model. And I think the 700c Atlantises came later; originally > they were 26". While it's possible that the geometry/ride of this > particular bike may be similar to or even identical to an Atlantis, if it > sports a Riv label on the downtube, it is not an Atlantis b/c it was not > made in Japan. > > While we're on the subject, I'm looking at Riv Catalog No. 4 from Summer > 1998/March 1999, and Catalog No. 5 from Summer-Winter 1999 in front of me, > and both have pics of 2 different Long Lows with cantis, for you > nonbelievers. The LL is described as having a bigger tire clearance (up to > 38c), longer stays, little relaxed angles, and cantis (because at that > time, there were no std reach brakes available). in fact, Cat. 5 has a std > geometry table for the A/R, Road Std, and LL. > > So I think it's really unfair to keep on calling this an Atlantis. There > was a real Long Low model that was built by Joe S, and if this is one, then > I think that's a very fair price for a great bike. > > Greg > > - > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
