Thanks you too, this is practical advice that I am looking for. I will
decide next week about all of this, and most likely stick to my
original plan of replacing the parts that were worn out/drivetrain
instead of the whole thing.  I know it is never going to be light - I
always tell people it is like riding a Cadillac.

On Apr 6, 10:28 pm, dougP <[email protected]> wrote:
> "The rings were  the reason that I took the bike apart in the first
> place, as
>
> > they were the only parts that were really worn out.."
>
> The odds are good that only the middle & outer ring were shot.  The
> little inner ones don't usually see a lot of use and it may even be
> steel (mine is & has 9 yrs use).  If everything else was working fine,
> and doing what you need the bike to do, I'd go for a pair of rings,
> new chain & cassette and not let this turn into a high dollar
> effort.
>
> As to reducing weight, saving a pound or two here'n'there on an
> Atlantis won't be noticeable.  The bike is built stout to take heavy
> loads, so it would be tough to get it down to a sporty weight.  My 58
> cm tips the scales at around 26-27 lbs with no racks or bags (a rare
> condition).  In my standard set-up (Nitto big back rack, mini-front &
> Acorn boxy bag) it's well north of 30 lbs.
>
> dougP
>
> On Apr 6, 6:37 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Well I want my bike to be beautiful too. I want indexed shifters, not
> > bar end as I am used to them. I am thinking about going to a double
> > crank. From everything I have read here is would be lighter, and I
> > could still get a good gear range for  touring,a lthough I would have
> > to get a rear MB derailer. It is hard for me to conceive that with a
> > 42 front ring that I could get a high enough gear for flats to cruise
> > on.. but from what i can tell it seems that you all think a triple
> > chain ring in the front is very repetitive. Am still not sure if I
> > have to replace my 105 Shimano indexed shifters if I just decide to
> > change to a double crank and different rear cassette. Can you clarify
> > please.? What is a brifter?I think the first thing to decide is double
> > or triple crank and rear cassette and then figure out if I have to
> > replace   my current derailers and shifters if I do that.  The rings
> > were  the reason that I took the bike apart in the first place, as
> > they were the only parts that were really worn out.. now here I am
> > with half my bike sitting next to this computer desk in a big pile and
> > this is turning into a million dollar project. I can probably afford
> > to redo the whole thing, but do not necessarily feel the need to do
> > that. I kind of like to use things up and recycle etc.
>
> > On Apr 6, 9:17 am, islaysteve <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > dr (original poster):  I agree you have a lot to consider and digest here.
> > > You a debating compact double vs. triple cranks, for one thing.  As for
> > > myself, I've always had a double, and used 105 STI 'brifters'.  They have
> > > performed so well for me that I see no reason to leave them.  The mainline
> > > Rivendell philosophy favors non-indexed bar-end shifters, and lots of 
> > > folks
> > > here go that way.  However one good thing about Riv and this forum is that
> > > there's a wide tolerance for individuality and using what works for you.
> > > Along those lines, I'd suggest that you may first want to decide on your
> > > shifting system.  I believe that you have been using STI?  If you like it,
> > > you'll likely not want to change.  I've heard (and not confirmed, and
> > > others here may correct me) that triples are a bit more finicky for
> > > brifters.  But you were running a triple anyway, so would have your own
> > > experience.  As Jim and others have mentioned, you can go to a compact
> > > double and still have a wide gear range.  That's what I am going to work
> > > toward on my bike.  I also admit to considering it an object of "beauty"
> > > and consider that when choosing parts.  I got a very nice-looking Sugino
> > > Alpina compact double and that's what I'm sticking with.  You may not be
> > > able to keep your 105 RD if you opt for a larger cassette; but as 
> > > mentioned
> > > above, you can get a good Shimano mtn derailleur that will handle the
> > > larger cogs and should be just as reliable as what you are used to.  Good
> > > luck, Steve- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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