This is great.
More than I thought! More than I thought I could ever know about grease!
Ciao,
JimD
On May 22, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Bill M. wrote:

> You can use Phil for everything and be just fine.  If you want to get 
> obsessive, read on...
> 
> I particularly like boat trailer wheel bearing grease (the tacky blue stuff) 
> for headsets.  Rolling friction isn't an issue there, so a thick, tacky 
> grease that resists water washout is appropriate. If I lived in Seattle I'd 
> use it in hubs too.  
> 
> For those few loose-ball hubs I have left in the fleet I'm currently trying 
> out some Mobil 1 automotive grease, which has a synthetic base (should resist 
> oxidation well, for long life without turning into a tacky varnish), and a 
> nice smooth consistency that I think gives a bit less friction in rolling 
> bearings.  Probably not measurable, but what the heck.  I haven't seen any 
> negative results so far, and anything from the auto parts store is cheaper 
> than the alternative from a bike shop.  I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to 
> use the tacky blue grease in a Phil or White Industries freehub.  (Yes, I 
> have one of each and while the bearings are sealed the freewheel ratchets do 
> need to be cleaned and lubed occasionally).  I think it would be too thick to 
> let the ratchet pawls to work properly.  The Mobil 1 grease seems to work 
> fine for those.  Phil Tenacious Oil would probably work, too.
> 
> Any grease is probably OK for stems and seatposts, but in theory anti-seize 
> compound should be better than grease at keeping those non-moving parts from 
> welding together.
> 
> Whatever you use, it's best not to mix greases in any application.  If you 
> are converting to a different grease, clean out all of the old stuff before 
> introducing the new.  Different thickeners and additive packages can react 
> chemically and cause big problems.  
> 
> One more thing, I wouldn't use motor oil for lubricating anything that's not 
> a motor (like a bike chain).  Wrong additive package entirely.  A gear oil 
> with EP additives is a far more appropriate choice.  My oil can has Mobil 1 
> 75W-90 in it (left over from my Miata's transmission).  I use tiny drops of 
> that on brake pivots and such.  
> 
> Bill
> Stockton, CA
> 
> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 3:44:15 AM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
> I'm doing my first ever new build this weekend. I have a new blue 52cm 
> Sam coming on Wednesday and all the parts and am building it up for my 
> girlfriend. So what kind of grease do you guys think is best? And do 
> you use the same grease for everything, BBs, stems, seatposts, cranks, 
> etc.? I was reading some of the old Peeking Through the  Knothole and 
> Grant likes the blue, Sta-Lube marine grease. Has anyone tried that. 
> BTW, my girlfriend is not an avid rider like me, so I doubt that the 
> new Sam will be ridden in the rain and muck, etc., but still, I want 
> the good goop, since I only have just your everyday, any ol' grease 
> right now. Also any other suggestions for my first build would be 
> great. I have had every part of a bike off and on at some time or 
> another except deraillers. Thanks all.
> 
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