A good kid MTB to consider is the Specialized Hotrock 24. I'm very happy
with the one we have. Enough so to buy a second for kid #2! You already
have a 24", but if you find a cheap used Hotrock, check it out. The newer
ones are de-contented a bit over the ones a few years old.

I'm really obsessed on weight of kid bikes. More so than mine!!! So many
weigh in at, or over 30lbs. That's 50% of my kid's weight! It's like 170#
me trying to ride a 85lbs bike up a hill! The Hotrock is lighter (forget
what exactly, maybe 25#???) than most other 24" bikes, and the
aforementioned Conquest 24 is super-light for the segment. Somewhere around
20 IIRC.

I mentioned it before, but so wish someone would be a distributor for Islabikes
<http://www.islabikes.co.uk/>here in NA. They really seem to get the kid
thing and have really focused on the market. This is the bike I would love
to have for my kid: http://www.islabikes.co.uk/bike_pages/luath26.html

Anywho, wasn't Grant mentioning a kid-bike recently? That will be a really
interesting development in the marketplace. It would be one of those
investments that keep on giving for a long time! I think it was 20" though,
so my kids are pretty much sized out consideration.



On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  I basically gave up looking for a "quality" kids bike. Even with my
> almost-10-year-old's love/like of cycling, he's only going to ride a few
> hundred miles a year, if that. We'll go on 10-15 mile rides many
> good-weather wekeends. But ride while cold? Nope. Raining? No way. Too hot?
> Not a chance. It's not his fault. Not everyone loves "bicycle cycling" the
> way I do. So while he notices when his knees hit his handlebar (which
> prompted us to get him a 24"-wheeled bike to replace his 20"-wheeled bike
> the day we saw it happen), he *doesn't* notice/care when his seat is too
> low or his tires are squirmy or his arms are somewhat stretched or the bike
> feels "funny" or "dead" or "twitchy". I've observed him riding enough to
> feel okay about the safety of his fit and his "seat" on his new bike. But I
> couldn't rationalize spending the money to go to the next level at this
> point.
> Now, the way he's growing, it wouldn't surprise me if he could ride a 48cm
> Hillborne in a few years. Even more likely a 50cm Betty. If his desire to
> ride grows along with his limbs, that's not out of the question at all. My
> wife could ride the Betty once he's outgrown it. And he'd get a chance to
> experience unracer riding before completely choosing his own bike.
> Until then, though, it's a cheap-and-heavy-but-not-totally-crappy Novara
> pseudo-quasi-mountain bike with a suspension he'll never compress and a top
> tube he'll comfortably span only when his knees bruise his chest while
> riding. Who designs these things? It couldn't possibly stand up to actual
> mountain biking. And the only thing the suspension adds to normal
> road/trail riding is weight. (At least it *is* a somewhat lighter than my
> totally be-racked/be-fendered/be-leathered double-top-tube 60cm Hillborne
> with a 40-spoke Phil-hubbed Cliffhanger rear wheel and wood grips. I bet if
> I stripped the racks to just the R-50 saddlebag quick-release, replaced the
> wood grips with cork, and left everything else the same it'd go the other
> way. As it is his is not that much lighter.)
> Oh well... at least I know it was put together by someone who wasn't
> completely stoned. (My experiences with non-REI LBSes in my area has been
> bad, to say the least. I haven't been back to one since my front wheel and
> fork fell out while loading my "repaired" bike onto the rack on the back of
> my car. They hadn't clamped the stem to the steerer "very well".)
> Fortunately, so far the doesn't have to deal with his father's biggest
> (biking) problem: excessive (engine) weight.
>
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Friday, June 22, 2012 12:53:19 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>
>> Thanks Seth, that's a really nice bike!
>>
>> I'm so tired of 20" kid bikes that weigh more than my 29er.
>>
>> FWIW, the best production non-MTB kid bike I can find is the Redline
>> Conquest 24. It's not perfect, but best option out there that I have
>> latched on to.
>>
>> Anybody know of small sized (<45cm) cross bikes w/ 26" wheels?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>
>> The discussion of good kids' bikes comes up from time to time.
>>>
>>> I caught this today on fastboy cycles' blog/flickr feed and I thought
>>> some of y'all may be intrigued:
>>>
>>> http://www.fastboycycles.com/**teachingcancertocry/?p=829<http://www.fastboycycles.com/teachingcancertocry/?p=829>
>>> and
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/**fastboy/7419479154<http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastboy/7419479154>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thought some of y'all might find it interesting.
>>>
>>> -sv
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> David
>> Redlands, CA
>>
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