My favorite?  Might be the larger sized frame Surly LHT available with 26"
wheels.  Am able to realize what I had been trying to get my bikes to do
back in the mid 1980's.  Somewhat wide tires, with long chainstays and drop
bars.

And yes, an Atlantis will do the same thing, but frame sizes above 56
restrict one to 700C wheels.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:38 PM, ted <[email protected]> wrote:

> 42/52 and 13-23 eh? I recall 44/52 and a 14-18 straight block.
> Of course after 30+ years and a relocation, now I'm thinking about
> 28/44 and a 12-36.
>
> On Jul 2, 9:43 am, Michael Hechmer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > OK, admittedly a bit, ok a lot, off topic... but Riv people have a
> > ....nuanced relationship with technological biking "advancements."  So
> > consider this a philosophical inquiry. (Perhaps even GP will be
> interested
> > in this unscientific survey) Yesterday as I was out for a very pleasant
> > couple of hours riding in the Green Mountains on my Ram, I had a certain
> > insight into what has added the most to my cycling pleasure during the
> last
> > 35 years.  It was clear.  The "compact crank"!
> >
> > When I took up cycling, as an adult, with full Campy equipment,typical
> > gearing was a 52/42 mated to a 13-23.  Even then being wimpy I used a
> 13-26
> > and discovered that despite Campy's claims my NR derailler would handle a
> > 28.  Still big hills, let alone mountain passes, were agonizing.  Now
> with
> > a 44/30 & 11/28, I can cruise up 8% grades in a near 1 to 1 ratio, and
> > manage the occasional  10-14% ramp without distress even though I am 30
> > years older.  Of course longer 10+% mountain climbs want lower gears.  I
> > believe that the compact crank has also driven both front and rear
> > derailler development, yielding crisp shifting over just enough wider
> range
> >  to make a go-fast set up appropriate for  tackling lots of hills.
> >
> > Of course, learning the speed and joy are independent variables has also
> > helped a lot.  But pain and joy are not.
> >
> > Soooo.... what bicycle development has added the most to your enjoyment
> > during your cycling career?
> >
> > Michael
>
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