I've not ridden a HH, but I did briefly own a Sam and, based just on that I'd say that the Sam makes a better all rounder or country bike -- excellent for that, IMO with the reservations that I didn't like its load carrying properties and, second, that it won't take the fat tires that I like for dirt roads. But for a combo of pavement, firm dirt and light loads, I'd love to have mine back; as it was, it just didn't fit into my bike stable categories which are determined in part by budget.
As for road use, I found it somewhat sluggish compared to the purely road Rivs I've owned and compared to other road bikes like the erstwhile Herse randonneur. Doesn't the HH have lighter tubing and more roady geometry? On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 8:10 PM, ted <[email protected]> wrote: > As others have said, if you are going to set them up quite different > that could make sense. > I have a 56 hillsen and and my wife has a 52 sam. Hers has alba bars > and rumpkin tires, mine has drop bars and GB cypres tires. They are > quite different to ride. > The hillsen is defiantely a really nice bike. If you are riding a > local racing clubs rides you may want be on more similar equipment > (like the rodeo), but short of that I don't think a hillsen would hold > you back. I certainly think your notion of sticking to a single wheel > size has definite advantages. > Perhaps a Bombadil Hillsen pairing would be even better. There is more > of difference between those two. Have 3 sets of wheels. One light road > only set for only on the hillsen, one mixed surface set with rumkins > on it for either bike, and a set with quasi-motos for only on the > bombadil. Maybe a fourth set with schwalbe fatties on it for flat free > use on either bike or skip the rumpkins and stick with 3 sets. > Probably not a helpful idea though since you already have the > hillborne. > > On Jul 27, 9:26 am, RJM <[email protected]> wrote: >> So I have been thinking of getting my next Riv and would really like a bike >> for light road riding primarily. Something that I can do quicker road >> rides, some long rando rides, charity rides, group rides. One saddle bag >> or handlebar bag would be the most I could see putting on it. Something a >> little quicker than my 48cm Sam. My question is, do you think a Hilsen >> would be a good compliment to a Sam or is it just too close in >> functionality and build to justify? Maybe go for the Roadeo instead to >> have something different? >> >> I have a PBH of 79, so pretty short and I am digging the 650b wheels on the >> Sam. Getting a Hilsen would allow me to swap wheels between the two bikes, >> which is a plus. I have a set of wheels made with Phil Rivy hubs and Dyad >> rims, 7 speed freewheel that I could see using for the Hilsen primarily. I >> also have a set of Synergy rimmed, LX hub wheels that I could put on the >> Sam. I like the fact that it has downtube shifter mounts, because that is >> probably the type of shifting that I would go for. (Roadeo doesn't have >> these). The Roadeo is also 700 wheels, which would require me to get a new >> set of wheels built. The lack of downtube shifting is a con too, but not a >> deal breaker I suppose. >> >> The Sam has been doing fine for all my riding this year, but I tend to keep >> racks and fenders off of it because I don't generally ride it in the rain >> and I have been doing club rides with it, basically I have tried to keep it >> from getting too heavy. If I get another roadish riv, I plan on putting >> racks and fenders on the Sam and using that for commuting and touring duty. >> >> What does everybody think? Go for the Hilsen, Roadeo, maybe scrap the >> whole idea and get another Sam? >> >> Thanks. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- "When in Rome, do as they done in Milledgeville." Flannery O'Connor ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
