Sorry about multiple posts above.  IPad Google Groups compatability issues.
 
>I still think it's a race for those who finish with the best times.  Don't 
you? 
 
I think if they thought of it as a race they would follow the rules.


On Monday, August 6, 2012 1:50:01 PM UTC-5, Jim Cloud wrote:

> I would hardly expect Richard Sachs to completely abandon his method 
> of frame construction at this point in his career and begin making 
> carbon fiber frames.  The current demand for his bikes far exceeds his 
> capacity (he has a seven-year backlog) and he no longer builds any 
> frames except for previous customers of his frames.  His bikes are 
> still, in addition, quite competitive in cyclocross. 
>
> He also builds bikes that are "Thoroughly Modern Millies" in terms of 
> their equipment specifications, he isn't scouring the shelves looking 
> for classic NOS Campy components from the NR/SR era.  He has stated 
> that every bike he produces in 2012 is a product of modern techniques 
> and equipment, he does not build the bikes with the same exact methods 
> and materials that he used 30 years ago. 
>
> > He also seems to be unaware that PBP is not a race. 
>
> I would also imagine that Sachs is aware that the P-B-P isn't a race 
> for many who ride in the event.  I still think it's a race for those 
> who finish with the best times.  Don't you? 
>
> Jim Cloud 
> Tucson, AZ 
>
>
> On Aug 6, 11:09 am, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 11:00 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: 
> > > Richard Sachs once characterized the modern 
> > > infatuation with the French Constructeur era bike, as the end-point of 
> > > touring bike design, as being in the vein of Civil War enactors. 
> > 
> > Yes, that's very amusing, but one should also notice that as one of the 
> > best known builders of steel racing bikes, which have not been seen in 
> > the pro peloton for many years now, and which will certainly never be 
> > seen there again, he himself could be described as engaging in or 
> > fostering Civil War Re-enactment. 
> > 
> > > He also made the point that most of the riders in the top finishing 
> > > group of classic brevets, such as the P-B-P are not riding bikes that 
> > > evoke the Rene Herse or Alex Singer randonneur bikes of the past - 
> > > they're riding modern carbon fiber frame bikes. 
> > 
> > He also seems to be unaware that PBP is not a race. 
>

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