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On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 4:57:00 PM UTC-7, bwphoto wrote: > > I've been using a number of different things to do errands and grocery > runs. Big runs, that involve stuff I don't have a way to carry on my Sam, > are taken care of with my Burley flatbed trailer. For loads that will work > on Sam I use two Minnehaha bags ( > http://www.calhouncycle.com/productcart/pc/Canvas-Grocery-Bag-Pannier-93p1703.htm) > > they snap closed, have both shoulder strap and hand grab straps neither of > which interfere with riding. INstead of shlepping a paper grocery bag out I > just use the bags themselves in the same way I would use a reuseable > grocery bag. > > The other bag I use is the Banjo Bro Market bag, which has a cover that > snaps closed. It also folds flat against the rack and like the Minnehaha > ones can be left on the bike. > > One caveat I've learned is that at 66 I can no longer easily swing my leg > over anything higher than my saddle or wider than my leg will extend...not > to long ago I used to be able swing wither leg easily over whatever I had > back or front. > > Ecovelo.net has some good reviews of both. > > On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 6:12:22 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: >> >> 1. Cheapest *decent* hanging scale with capacity of at least 40 lb. I >> know Park makes an electric one for $60, but I would be quite happy with a >> mechanical model if cheaper. (I want to find out how heavy my Fargo is.) >> (Seriously, I like to weigh my grocery loads -- just 'cause.) >> >> 2. Prest-cum-Schrader replacement pump chuck. In a fit of >> brass-and-Silca-lust folly I cut the very decent one-chuck-for-both head >> off my pump to replace with a nice (looking) brass screw on Schraeder chuck >> that I thought might work better on my daughter's Schrader valves -- which >> it does, but screwing on the chuck is a royal arse pain especially when I >> have to use a Presta adaptor for my own bikes. >> >> 3. Bar tape. I've found my own current favorite but am curious what >> others think. I like the Lizard Skins 2.5 (I think it is also made in 1.8 >> and a thicker one whose measurement I don't have). >> >> 4. Grocery pannier. Here I have certain criteria to meet: >> - Easy on and off the rack. >> - Can be used singly or as a pair. >> - Secure on the rack >> - Holds a full-to-top paper grocery sack. >> - Has either a cover that will accomodate overflow, or else has loops to >> which one can attach a cargo net. >> - It is easy to insert a bulging-ly full grocery sack. (This criterion >> puts my otherwise wonderful Ortlieb Packers out of the running because of >> the (for this use) fiddly and obstructive flap and drawstrings.) >> - Universal fit on many different kinds of rack. >> - Stiffener on back if not on sides (all-cloth panniers tend in my >> experience to end up in the spokes with certain simpler racks). >> >> Of course, cost and durability are part of the equation. >> >> No Wald baskets! No saddlebags! Saddlebags, even the huge Hoss, don't >> hold enough, so I prefer panniers which I can mix and match as required. I >> realize that the easiest and capacious grocery carrier in the universe is a >> huge Wald Newsboy, but I don't have a bike that I'd care to add one of >> these to. >> >> I've used several different sorts of camping panniers, many different >> commuting panniers, Avenir grocery panniers (currently in use), Gnashbar >> grocery pannier, Axiom Dutch (style) boxy panniers, rear Wald baskets (too >> damn' narrow!), Carradice panniers and just about all Brooks and many other >> saddlebags out there. I want something that is pretty much designed for >> full paper grocery sacks. >> >> For convenience, the Avenirs are good though they are not stiff enough to >> be ideal. They are also too shallow and have no cover nor provision for a >> cargo net. Good only for short trips and you have to make sure you don't >> pack small, loose things on top. The folding arrangement is primitive, but >> they do fold when not full, which is a plus. >> >> The Axioms, in stock form, sagged too much under any load and the lip of >> the opening deformed under weight. I had to rivet a collar of aluminum >> strip around the mouths to stiffen them. Thus modified they are much better >> but the mouths are still a bit too narrow for easy insertion and removal of >> very full bags. >> >> Frankly, when cost is a large factor, I've used nothing more convenient >> than the drape-over-rack pair of Target kitchen trashcans that I joined >> with pop rivets, dowels and nylon webbing. Wider at top, deep, so that it >> is easy to insert and securely carry even an overflowing bag. Certainly >> sturdy enough if you reinforce all weight-bearing points with big washers >> or thin plywood or sheet metal. Easy on and off, since they drape, and a >> single toe strap holds them securely fore-and-aft. And the total cost >> (trashcans on sale) was no more than $12. IMO, these are better than milk >> crates or used cat litter boxes. You can also plaster all sorts of >> reflective material on the backs and even bolt blinkies permanently to them. >> >> Their big defect of course is that they look ineffably dorky. But I can >> see a plastic (not kitchen white!) bin-type pannier optimally sized and >> shaped, suitably reinforced at stress points, and with adjustable, QR >> mounting system a la Carradice or Ortlieb, and cargo net top -- does anyone >> make anything like this? >> >> Patrick "Riv + luggage" Moore >> >> -- >> "Believe nothing until it has been officially denied." >> -- Claude Cockburn >> >> ------------------------- >> Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA >> For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW >> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html >> ------------------------- >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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