Well put, and Philip's snipe put it just right.

This is all conjecture, right? No one at Riv has spoken of such a
faux-beausaged line? Please? It is a sign of pure marketing and I remember
what Grant said long ago, "We are product driven, not market driven."

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Matt Beebe <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is like pre-faded jeans, but for bikes.    I loathe the idea myself
> and hope it dies before it can be born.    The whole point of wear and tear
> on a well-loved bike is that it tells stories.      A daily lock-up at the
> same spot in the same bike rack, or a scratch you got while heaving your
> bike up a scree in Lilooet BC.    Pre-worn guitars are a zeitgeist of a
> fake, throw-away society, and if people ever play them the music sucks on
> principle alone.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, September 21, 2012 9:54:30 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> You all have been around Riv-culture longer than I. I was wondering what
>> your opinion is of Rivendell having a custom line of factory relic-ed
>> (beausaged, in Riv-speak) frames one day. Is there a market for it?
>>
>> Let me explain:
>> In the guitar and bass instrument retail world, makers manufacture
>> special lines of their instruments, called "relic-ed", for high prices.
>> People seem to lust over these and pay thousands upon thousands for them.
>> The reliced versions have chipped, worn off paint, down to bare wood;
>> aged hardware (rusted and oxidized metal parts); and discolored, "aged"
>> plastic parts. This is done at the factory on a new instrument.
>> So, you can have a guitar that looks well played and 40 years old, if you
>> think that looks nice.
>>
>> Personally, I prefer to do all "relicing" myself to my instruments (and
>> bikes), through years of lovingly playing (riding) and using them. So I
>> like to buy new, standard models.
>>
>> But there is a *HUGE* market for this in the guitar world.
>>
>> Is there a market for this in the Rivendell world?
>> Would you buy a Rivendell, made with dinged paint, environmentally worn
>> components, gassed gumwalls, and discolored plastic parts, for a more
>> "artistic" look? Everything functions perfectly, of course.
>>
>> I wouldn't, as I like leaving my mark on things myself.
>> Just wondering if you think there is a market for these kind of models.
>> Pre-Beausaged bikes.
>>
>> Looks like Brooks has already started doing this with their saddles, as
>> they have an aged, line, I think.
>>
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