What seems to work and make sense --- is that certain ethnicities have 
naturally more insulin-sensitivity (this can be overly simplified to 
"resistance to getting fat and diabetes") than others. Africans and Native 
Americans, for instance, have a short history of carby eating (as little as 
150 years  in some cases), and that probably explains why they gain weight 
and become diabetic sooner than Iranians. Insulin sensitivity is also 
developed in the womb. If mom's insulin resistant, baby tends to be, too. 
As you age and eat a diet that requires a constant stream of insulin from 
your pancrease, WHATEVER insulin resistance you had at the beginning of 
life will decrease. What that insulin resistance IS for anybody is largely 
unknown without testing. The tests are available and cheap, but people 
don't do them (for the most part) until they're confirmed diabetics who 
have to do them or suffer. To test your glucose without being diabetic is 
to be regarded as a nut-job.
Meanwhile we have naturally insulin-resistant people, skinny and all while 
following (for instance) a vegan diet and using their own success with that 
as proof that it works for others---without considering the wide range of 
insulin sensitivities in others. 
The comment about moderation working for some but not for others seems to 
be right on the money. 
You can't accumulate fat in the absence of insulin (Type 1 diabetics, who 
produce none of it, tend to be skinny, and only aren't skinny when they eat 
lots of carbs and have to inject lots of insulin to cover them). insulin 
literally prevents you from burning body fat as fuel. You cannot burn off 
your buttocks riding tons of miles if you eat carbs to fuel your riding, 
which is why there are so many relatively heavy megamilers.
OF COURSE, one must do what works for one, but the reality seems to be that 
over time your insulin sensitivity decreases (you become more 
insulin-resistant, more closer-to-diabetic), and if your carb intake 
doesn't decrease commensurately, you will get fatter as you age. This may 
be good news or bad news, but these ideas here are not chock full of 
nonsense.

On Saturday, October 6, 2012 1:06:03 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> This may be stretching the boundaries of the list mission, but we have 
> entertained a long discussion around Why We Get Fat, and if memory serves 
> me right, GP published an article in the Reader, which challenged the 
> wisdom of extreme forms of exercise, like the Iron Man competition.  So...
>
> I recently stumbled across a web site, 
> http://www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz28QX0hvFJ  while looking for some 
> health info.  The author has a whole thing going under the rubric of the 
> Primal Blueprint.  While his starting point seemed debatable the 
> conclusions he comes to both about diet and exercise sound practical and 
> congruent with the diet and exercise recommendations from Rivendell.  And 
> they build on them.  They seem pretty practical, especially around 
> exercise, to someone (moi) who is 68 years old, allergic to "training," but 
> still hoping to maintain an active life for as long as possible.
>
> Have others on this list looked into this program more deeply, or tried it 
> out.  What did you find, and what do you think?
>
> Michael
>

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