Forgot to add: one of my current favorites is a home-brew hack for a largish-medium Timbuktu to which I riveted a dowel that I can toe-strap to my rack. (Note that this is floppy and unconstructed: you can successfully use it only with a rack that supports it away from the spokes.) The shoulder strap stuffs inside the bag for pannier use.
The principal benefit of this is that it is the sole bag of the half dozen sets I own that can swallow my daughter's absurdly stuffed and heavy middle school backpack (structural weight, apart from variable addons, 15 lb) when I ride to pick her up. But given the right rack, such a hack gives a capacious carryall that converts back to its original use (the dowel isn't uncomfortable as long as the bag is not overloaded when so used. Note that this convertibility will probably not be as successful with bags using the Chrome type of stabilization that keeps the bag closer to the contours of one's back. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:01 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a pair of Ortlieb Packer Pluses and a front pair of Ortlieb > Packer Sports or whatever they are called. The nicest panniers I've > used (not that I've used many: Carradice small ones, Axioms both Dutch > and Standard, Avenirs, Nashbars). The QR mounting system with quick > adjust features is excellent. > > Carradice also have a very nice mounting system. > > Beware of unstructured, unstiffened panniers. These work fine with a > rack that fully protects the wheel -- ie, one with many struts like my > Tubus Logo -- but these things flop and get into the spokes otherwise, > making their use a purgatory. > > Shopping panniers: I asked not too long ago for recommendations and > received many; after once again using my modified Axiom Dutch > panniers, I decided that these are really fine for short grocery rides > and that I don't need to spend more money on grocery packers. (I > reinforced the openings' lips with aluminum strut.) Any money I spend > on new panniers will be for more Ortliebs or Carradices. > > Patrick Moore, who just yesterday evening carried home 35+ lbs of > groceries (including 8 lbs of sirloin on sale!!) in his Dutch Axioms. > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Don <[email protected]> wrote: >> OK, having picked your brains quite successfully on the subject of lighting >> I now turn to the subject of panniers, front and rear. I have a very >> inexpensive Sunlight top bag and panniers and am looking to upgrade. These >> would be for several day trips for more extended open road touring. I have >> most of my camping gear but need to purchase panniers. I have now have front >> and rear Nitto racks on my Sam H. Any and all advice would be helpful >> including: new,used, brands, models, cheap, expensive. The while enchilada. >> Thanks >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eyRdgdTm3eEJ. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! > http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t > > ------------------------- > Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA > For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > ------------------------- -- Vote early, vote often, vote Rhinoceros! http://tinyurl.com/d7muj2t ------------------------- Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html ------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
