The Sackville XS and Brand V Keven's bags (I have the former) are basic 
not-very-large seatbags..not near big enough to hit with your legs.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA

On Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:47:30 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

> Thanks -- I suspected that was it, but then the design is so careful with 
> details that I thought perhaps this was to cosmetically improve the 
> interior looks. The flip-over explanation makes more sense, though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J <
> [email protected] <javascript:>> wrote:
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>>  Patrick:****
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>> It’s designed to flip/flap over and thus cover whatever you load into the 
>> bag.  If you use it that way, in most cases you never need to snap the big 
>> covering flap shut – combo of the interior flap and the weight of the 
>> exterior flap is more than enough.  Which makes access a little easier and 
>> quicker.****
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>> Tom****
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>> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Saddle bags hit backs of legs?****
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>> I just rode 10 miles home with my Sackville med stuffed; I was surprised 
>> at how little contact it made compared to a Nelson or Camper.****
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>> I was disappointed in the several Bagmans -- Bagmen? -- that I used. They 
>> look nice but seemed too flimsy for much weight. Note that I've not used 
>> the newer model which, from the photo, is ugly and is complicated by struts 
>> running to the seat stays. If you are going to have struts, I say, make 
>> them rack struts.****
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>> I preferred the SQR, of which I also used several, but it also is limited 
>> to 22 lb and, for me anyway, holds the bag too high and back. Its clamp 
>> screw will dig into your seatpost unless you put something between it and 
>> the post. ****
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>> IMO, the Nitto Grip is best, if you have a Brooks saddle and for some 
>> reason don't want to use your Brooks's loops; add a minimal rack or sturdy 
>> fender if you lack clearance. IMO, the ideal, not-of-this-world setup would 
>> be a Flite with sturdy loops holding a large bag supported underneath by a 
>> custom platform integral with the fender. Just dreamin'. But with my 559 
>> wheeled Riv, the Sackville M works fine sans bottom support.****
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>> FWIW, I was disappointed in the admittedly inexpensive seatpost clamped 
>> Velo Orange support -- flexed under a Nelson LF.****
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>> Lastly, a question: the Sackville Med has an interior flap attached at 
>> the bottom of the bag's mouth. Is this meant to cover the coroplast 
>> stiffener, or is it meant to flip over the load for additional security and 
>> protection before you close the lid? I use it both ways and both make 
>> sense, at least to my little mind. What's up wizzat?****
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>> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Lynne Fitz 
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>> Bagman.
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