Thanks everyone. I went ahead and put the Scrap Deluxe up for sale. It's a cool bike and a great ride but I think a Sam is going to be a more flexible bike for me. I like the idea of a vintage steel bike but I know nothing about building or restoring a bike plus the Pashley Guv'nor satisfies my vintage fetish nicely. I'm looking forward to a road bike that I can take to work, that I can take to a park or a bike path in my regular clothes. A bike that can go fast but does not look like it needs to (if that's makes any sense).
Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > On Sun, 2012-12-09 at 10:02 -0800, charlie wrote: >> I see your point Steve and don't necessarily disagree....for me at 257 >> right now, two top tubes seems fine. In fact, the Sam feels more >> lively than my Surly Trucker. I own a standard diameter high end 80's >> race bike with Columbus SL and it flexes noticeably (for me) I only >> ride it on smooth roads in nice weather. If I were to own a frame with >> thinner tubing I would be concerned about eventual cracking. That >> is,if it were my daily rider. I thought of trying a Boulder tigged >> frame but didn't because I felt I was too heavy for one and would have >> to upgrade to custom tubing making it too expensive......would rather >> wait and buy a lugged frame when I am down another 30 pounds from a >> near all time high of 282. When youger at 175 my old Bianchi felt fine >> on 23 mm tires.... these days I would trash such a bike. > > Well, it's true, ~260 is considerably different than ~200. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.