and William, in the post you replied to, I used the word "I" twice in 200 
words - you used it 4 times in 80 words - think about it.  

On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:55:36 PM UTC-6, William wrote:
>
> I used to think it mattered who I passed and who passed me.  I don't think 
> that anymore.  I ring my bell hello at all of them.  
>
> On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:43:35 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> I ride a lot of city park trails, especially with my daughter, or there's 
>> a 26-mile-round paved trail that I hit a lot just for a weekly aerobic ride 
>> if no place else comes to mind.  We see a lot of the same lycra guys there, 
>> and many of them are smug if not condescending about upright bikes and 
>> baggy clothes.  They don't pass me, though.  
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:55:36 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote:
>>>
>>> >But what I find offensive (that may be too stronga word) are the 
>>> notions that "serious" riders dress, ride bikes like, and 
>>> > train like racers. 
>>>  
>>> Agree with this completely.  For the most part I ignore stuff about 
>>> bikes and riding I don't cotton to.  Life is too short.
>>>  
>>> But this whole notion that one type of riding and rider is serious and 
>>> the rest of us are what ... goofing around I guess really bugs me.
>>>  
>>> Especially so when one considers the term is most often used by 
>>> amateurs.  I am sure to many bike racing is fun and to almost all it is a 
>>> healthy way to pass time when not at work or attending to your personal 
>>> obligations.  Amateur racing in the end is a hobby like any other hobby.  
>>>  
>>> Certainly the fact one races bikes for fun does not make one more 
>>> 'serious' about cycling than the person who uses a bike as primary 
>>> transport, or cycles around the world, or collects old bikes, etc. 
>>>
>>

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