And what counts as a "heavy load carriers", a commuter with laptop
books and lunch, 20 lbs on a s240, or 50+ lbs on an extended trip in
the boonies? Lean riders or more typical middle aged men with several
10s of spare lbs? By all means buy and ride what you like, but
diversity in the marketplace is a good thing. There is more than one
right way.

On Dec 21, 11:16 am, Jim Mather <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Steve Palincsar <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > And if double-top-tube Rivs were campeurs and similar, I'd be perfectly
> > fine with that.  What really bothers me is adding that kind of
> > stiffening on already too stiff frames not meant to be heavy load
> > carriers in the first place, especially if provided solely for the sake
> > if visual differentiation, like the Hetchins "vibrant triangle."
>
> I know plenty of double-top-tube Rivs that get used for hauling heavy
> camping loads. Have you actually ridden any of them? One rider's too
> stiff is another rider's solid and steady. Making sweeping
> generalizations based on your preference is pretty specious.
>
> jim m
> wc ca

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