I don't know if the thinking at Rivendell has changed, but Grant's original vision for this storied frame was free of a front derailer:
"[It's] basically a flat-to-rolling land bike that, by virtue of its superlong top tube (62.5cm on this 54.3cm frame), locks you into a sweeepyback bar. That doesn’t rule out touring or dirt riding, but those aren’t the point, and to drive home the actual point, it has one water bottle, and no way to mount a front derailer." http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/13522805152/odd-new-bike-and-misc-stuffs I generally vote on the side of weird, so I think its wonderful, but maybe Riv believes it's too weird, or maybe their inner pendulum has swung back from specialized to versatile. However it comes out, I hope they sell thousands of them! On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA <benzouy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe Grant has lost it and designed this bike for the SRAM XX1! Carbon > everything, baby! :) > > http://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/family/xx1 > > > > On Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:34:31 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: >> >> This bike has very long chainstays, a very long headtube, and is not >> intended to be run with a front derailer. It's much more "cruiser" than >> anything else in Riv's line. >> >> Joe Bernard >> Vallejo CA. >> >> On Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:52:40 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: >>> >>> Haha, I am all for new bikes, especially ones that can be set up with IGH >>> hubs. I do love a secret as well and so far I believe there has only been >>> one "mystery bike" owner to come forward and it had more the touches of a >>> custom, with the scarab headbadge and all. I would love to get a test ride >>> on one of those, oh and a credit card with no limit also! >>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Dave <dfa...@charter.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Before you get all "conspiracy theorist" about this, the finished one I >>>> saw was one of the original batch that went to the early adopters. This >>>> green one may be part of that, as well. Besides, if it's a new bike that's >>>> taking off due to popularity, let's be happy about that! Grant never did >>>> formally (or at least publicly) settle on a name for it, so, no, you didn't >>>> miss a thing. Transparency was never part of the bargain, though! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/29/2012 9:11 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: >>>> >>>> Now I am curious, how many of these things are there if they are getting >>>> shipped out to customers? Did I miss a Blug or email about them picking a >>>> name and head badge or are we in the realm of not so secret secrets? >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Dave <dfa...@charter.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I saw an Appaloosa at RBW before it was shipped (not the one in this >>>>> pic). One of the prettiest bikes I've ever seen. No front derailer, >>>>> either. Having ridden the Bosco/proto/whatever, and knowing the it became >>>>> the Appaloosa, I'd buy one instead of a custom. It was THAT fun! You can >>>>> strap accessories to anything with enough ingenuity; it's the feel that >>>>> matters, so far as I'm concerned. I hope it sticks in the lineup, unlike >>>>> the other great bikes like the Simple One. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/29/2012 8:48 PM, dougP wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What - no racks, no bags, no baskets? Not even a pump or bottle cage? >>>>> And it's already got grips & bar tape! Nice looking ride; maybe built >>>>> for a >>>>> customer? Those head badges are quite nicely detailed. >>>>> >>>>> dougP >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:12:27 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dropped by RBW today for a few things, including a leftover RONA >>>>>> t-shirt (that's Retrogrouches of North America). Snapped a pic of the new >>>>>> protovelo with an Appaloosa headbadge that I hadn't seen before: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8322596189/in/set-72157632374797893/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Also included a shot of the new Yves Gomez headbadge because it's so >>>>>> cool. >>>>>> >>>>>> jim m >>>>>> wc ca >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3T1L1ZA0LjAJ. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>>> >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5996 - Release Date: >>>> 12/29/12 >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/LWDPzos-8zEJ. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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