A 36t ring and am 11-34 cassette gives you gears from 31" to 95" on Big 
Apples.
That would be more than enough for me. 

Philip
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On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:19:33 AM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 31, 2012 6:04:42 AM UTC-8, Colin B. wrote:
>>
>> I don't know if the thinking at Rivendell has changed, but Grant's 
>> original vision for this storied frame was free of a front derailer: 
>>
>> "[It's] basically a flat-to-rolling land bike that, by virtue of its 
>> superlong top tube (62.5cm on this 54.3cm frame), locks you into a 
>> sweeepyback bar. That doesn’t rule out touring or dirt riding, but 
>> those aren’t the point, and to drive home the actual point, it has one 
>> water bottle, and no way to mount a front derailer." 
>>
>
> I don't get this bike? Is it design for flatland like Florida? How can you 
> have a 54/55cm bike with a 62.5 toptube? Any rider would have an extremely 
> long torso?! 
>
> Maybe I'm spoiled, but living here in the SF Bay Area, we have tons of 
> places to ride and there's always hills, especially here in SF. But, I love 
> the hills and enjoy climbing. The rewards - good long climbs are usually 
> followed by great descents and the fitness you get from climbing is great. 
> I could never see getting a bike that is only good for "flat-to-rolling 
> land." Good Luck!
>  
>
>>
>> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/13522805152/odd-new-bike-and-misc-stuffs 
>>
>> I generally vote on the side of weird, so I think its wonderful, but 
>> maybe Riv believes it's too weird, or maybe their inner pendulum has 
>> swung back from specialized to versatile. 
>>
>> However it comes out, I hope they sell thousands of them! 
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
>> <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> > Maybe Grant has lost it and designed this bike for the SRAM XX1! Carbon 
>> > everything, baby! :) 
>> > 
>> > http://www.sram.com/sram/mountain/family/xx1 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Sunday, December 30, 2012 1:34:31 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> This bike has very long chainstays, a very long headtube, and is not 
>> >> intended to be run with a front derailer. It's much more "cruiser" 
>> than 
>> >> anything else in Riv's line. 
>> >> 
>> >> Joe Bernard 
>> >> Vallejo CA. 
>> >> 
>> >> On Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:52:40 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Haha, I am all for new bikes, especially ones that can be set up with 
>> IGH 
>> >>> hubs. I do love a secret as well and so far I believe there has only 
>> been 
>> >>> one "mystery bike" owner to come forward and it had more the touches 
>> of a 
>> >>> custom, with the scarab headbadge and all. I would love to get a test 
>> ride 
>> >>> on one of those, oh and a credit card with no limit also! 
>> >>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Before you get all "conspiracy theorist" about this, the finished 
>> one I 
>> >>>> saw was one of the original batch that went to the early adopters. 
>>  This 
>> >>>> green one may be part of that, as well.  Besides, if it's a new bike 
>> that's 
>> >>>> taking off due to popularity, let's be happy about that!  Grant 
>> never did 
>> >>>> formally (or at least publicly) settle on a name for it, so, no, you 
>> didn't 
>> >>>> miss a thing.  Transparency was never part of the bargain, though! 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> On 12/29/2012 9:11 PM, Peter Morgano wrote: 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Now I am curious, how many of these things are there if they are 
>> getting 
>> >>>> shipped out to customers? Did I miss a Blug or email about them 
>> picking a 
>> >>>> name and head badge or are we in the realm of not so secret secrets? 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> I saw an Appaloosa at RBW before it was shipped (not the one in 
>> this 
>> >>>>> pic).  One of the prettiest bikes I've ever seen.  No front 
>> derailer, 
>> >>>>> either.  Having ridden the Bosco/proto/whatever, and knowing the it 
>> became 
>> >>>>> the Appaloosa, I'd buy one instead of a custom.  It was THAT fun! 
>>  You can 
>> >>>>> strap accessories to anything with enough ingenuity; it's the feel 
>> that 
>> >>>>> matters, so far as I'm concerned.  I hope it sticks in the lineup, 
>> unlike 
>> >>>>> the other great bikes like the Simple One. 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> On 12/29/2012 8:48 PM, dougP wrote: 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> What - no racks, no bags, no baskets?  Not even a pump or bottle 
>> cage? 
>> >>>>> And it's already got grips & bar tape!  Nice looking ride; maybe 
>> built for a 
>> >>>>> customer?  Those head badges are quite nicely detailed. 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> dougP 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> On Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:12:27 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Dropped by RBW today for a few things, including a leftover RONA 
>> >>>>>> t-shirt (that's Retrogrouches of North America). Snapped a pic of 
>> the new 
>> >>>>>> protovelo with an Appaloosa headbadge that I hadn't seen before: 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8322596189/in/set-72157632374797893/
>>  
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Also included a shot of the new Yves Gomez headbadge because it's 
>> so 
>> >>>>>> cool. 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> jim m 
>> >>>>>> wc ca 
>> >>>>>> 
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