I just purchased a Soma San Marcos. Waiting for some of the parts to arrive.
I like the Sam to commute on but I do find it a bit sluggish, I would not
call it stiff. I am hoping the San Marcos is a bit more lively feeling.
On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 1:48:50 PM UTC+10, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 650B 56 single TT has gotta be the perfect bike!
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Davidbea <bead...@gmail.com
> <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> I’ve also spent many hundreds of dollars (at least) on Bridgestones,
>> Univegas, Miyatas and hybrid Bianchis not buying a Rivendell. I’ve been
>> *almost
>> *satisfied but still wanted the real thing.
>>
>> I finally decided to take the plunge and am picking up a new 56cm 650B H.
>> Homer Hilsen frame set. It’s one of the last single tube Toyo’s. Looking to
>> put this together within as tight a budget as reasonably possible but am
>> certainly excited about spring’s imminent arrival here with a new bike.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Friday, March 1, 2013 3:14:16 AM UTC-5, Tonester wrote:
>>>
>>> I was fortunate enough to get an Atlantis as a gift, but I can tell you
>>> I spent hundreds (thousands, perhaps) of dollars NOT buying a Rivendell.
>>> Treks, Miyatas, blah blah blah. I did the same with my Aerostich
>>> motorcycle suit - instead of just biting the bullet and spending the $700+
>>> I bought countless replicas and half measures, only to finally just give up
>>> and eat ramen for a couple of months and buying the real deal - which is
>>> still with me ten years later. All the other stuff is long gone.
>>>
>>> If a Riv is what you want, no other scratch will cure that itch. Do it!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 6:36:55 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gernot's got the right idea. Instead of us trying to figure out how
>>>> Rivendell can give us "low priced lugged bikes", we need to figure out how
>>>> to organize our resources, expenses & priorities to afford a Rivendell. I
>>>> really truly believe Grant & Co are doing the best they can to deliver a
>>>> quality, uncompromised product at a fair price. Somehow people justify
>>>> cars costing 10X a Rivendell ("it's only monthly payments"). The bike
>>>> will
>>>> be a pleasure to own long after the car is on the scrap heap.
>>>>
>>>> When I bought my Atlantis 10 years ago, it cost 3X what I'd paid for
>>>> the most expensive bike I'd bought to date. However, I told myself I
>>>> could
>>>> screw around with compromises for the rest of my life or just get what I
>>>> wanted & enjoy it for decades. We're about to start our second decade
>>>> together.
>>>>
>>>> Where there's sufficient will, there is a way. I think Rivendell has
>>>> done their part.
>>>>
>>>> dougP
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:08:04 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is how to get a budget Riv now (other than waiting for a used
>>>>> deal, which could also take a while):
>>>>>
>>>>> Get yourself a zero % interest credit card. Get a Sam or Betty now
>>>>> before the price goes up (get the unpainted head tube if still available
>>>>> in
>>>>> your size). Set up automatic payments so that you pay off the frame
>>>>> before
>>>>> the interest kicks in. Find a bargain older bike on Craig's List that has
>>>>> a
>>>>> suitable selection of parts. Move the parts over (650B wheels will be a
>>>>> problem, though). Scrounge for the rest (long reach brakes and wheels)
>>>>> here
>>>>> on the RBW list and the iBob list.
>>>>>
>>>>> The $400 you could save in a budget frame is a pittance even on a
>>>>> budget if spread out over a year. Commit to cooking for your family
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of going out to eat, do without cable, stop drinking beer and wine for a
>>>>> year, or juice (it's not that healthy, anyway), whatever. Or ride your
>>>>> new
>>>>> bike everywhere if you are now driving a car. Sell the car, buy a trailer
>>>>> for the kids, or a front mounted and rear mounted child seat. There are
>>>>> ways to save $40 a month if you are working and living in the US. I
>>>>> waited
>>>>> for years before buying a Riv because they seemed so extravagant. Buying
>>>>> the original Sam at $1000 in 2009 felt like a super-splurge bordering on
>>>>> the irresponsible, but I bit the bullet because it was half of the other
>>>>> Rivs. I wish I hadn't waited so long.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope I don't sound preachy, and perhaps your finances are more dire
>>>>> than mine are/were (maxed out credit cards?), but most employed folk in
>>>>> the
>>>>> US can afford a Sam, especially if it can replace car trips some of the
>>>>> time. It's mostly a matter of priorities, and perhaps overcoming fear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gernot
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: Moving to a cheaper country doesn't hurt. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> GH in Thailand without a car with a 2.5 year old and an 8 month old,
>>>>> wife's student loans finally paid off a year ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36:21 AM UTC+7, murphyjrfk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love all the answers. And the what not. But I suppose I forgot to
>>>>>> mention I don't care if the bike they come out with didn't have lugs was
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> mixte with gray primer as pain t and not a single decal. I'm not tall
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> generally ride a 52 give or take and the thing that drives me crazy is
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> can't buy a smaller bike with a shallow seat tube. Even the lht-which I
>>>>>> have and like well enough-has a 74 degree seat tube. And man I love
>>>>>> shallow seat tubes. My wife and I have mountains o' student loans and
>>>>>> small
>>>>>> children so even when there is enough money I can't justify it. But man
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> I want the GP sweetness regardless o' what it looks like!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this group is the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:58:02 AM UTC-5, murphyjrfk wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does any one know if the budget riv is still being considered
>>>>>>> planned anything? I hope so. And sooner rather than later.
>>>>>>
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