I found the Ben in 55 at least as good on pavement compared to Apple in 50. 
Meanwhile, the traction of the Bens during dirt climbing is far superior. 

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On Mar 30, 2013, at 3:36 PM, PATRICK MOORE <[email protected]> wrote:

> Your impressions of the Big Ben compared to the Big Apple? (Please?)
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> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 4:01 PM, James Warren <[email protected]> 
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> As a rider of both, I say there is no loss here.
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> On Mar 30, 2013, at 2:53 PM, RenĂ© Sterental <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> They've been discontinued and replaced by the Big Ben. 
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>> On Saturday, March 30, 2013, Eric  wrote:
>> The Big Apples seem to be out of stock on Riv's site...anyone know if 
>> they'll be making a comeback? 
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