Compared to the single-pivot Dia-Compe sidepulls on my Bridgestone RB-2, *
everything* we have now works great. This type of brake was standard 
equipment on road  bikes back in the heyday of Campagnolo "speed reducers", 
which was market-speak for "they're light, but they don't work". 

On Thursday, April 4, 2013 11:25:22 AM UTC-7, john wrote:

> I've been searching the archives for a specific topic which I have not 
> found. Excuse me if I missed it.
>
> Due to the fact that an auto struck me while riding, ruining the original 
> the fork of my Sam Hillborne (with cantilever studs), I got a replacement 
> fork (Thanks Rivendell!) which didn't have the studs for canti's.
>
> Thus, I'm now using Tektro 559 sidepulls, rather than Tektro 720 canti's, 
> which was spec'd on the bike.
>
> I've read much about types of brakes, their various attributes, and etc. 
> Some argue cantilevers have more stopping power (greater mechanical 
> advantage) than sidepulls. Some argue side pulls are simple, elegant, and 
> easier to adjust. Some say, racers have been using sidepulls for years, why 
> not me? Others say neither option is the best; centerpull brakes are the 
> way to go. Then, there is the linear pull brake (V brake), which is another 
> type of cantilever, I believe. Not to mention disc brakes, both mechanical 
> and hydraulic....
>
> Although I value statistical analysis (Bike Quarterly), I prefer to hear 
> from people who actually ride certain brakes, and what the like, and 
> dislike. I'm not enough of a tech-minded person to stay with all the detail 
> of mechanics.
>
> The question is this: Those of you who have used both cantilevers and 
> sidepulls on a Rivendell frame (especially on a Sam Hill, but any will do, 
> I think), which do you prefer for stopping power (not aesthetics), and why?
>
> That is to say, if you were to spec a new bike, and it were a "road" bike, 
> not intended for touring with massive loads but for day rides, multiday 
> tours, even touring any distance with less than 50 pounds, which brakes 
> would you choose, and why?
>
> I'm interested in knowing why Rivendell changed their choice of brakes on 
> the stock Sam Hill. from a cantilevered bike to a side pull spec'd bike. 
> Perhaps they save cost in frame production? Perhaps they prefer sidepulls? 
> Perhaps they needed to purchase many of their designed Tektro 559's in 
> order for Tektro to make them?
>
> In any case, I'd be curious to hear what folks have to say on the topic. 
> As for myself...I'm still on the fence. I like the sidepull's looks much 
> better. I like the ease of adjustment. I think their stopping power is not 
> as great as the cantilevers - at least compared to my Tektro 720 
> cantilevers with yokozuma pads. But they're close. Close enough? Depends on 
> how steep the hill, how much weight is on the bike, and etc., of course. In 
> the end, I know it's a very personal choice.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John
>
>

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