Absolutely, Anne. Once we pass the traction threshold, nuances of feeling 
traction are moot. What I was trying to say is I go slow and use the 
nuances of traction feel to know if/when I am nearing the threshold, then 
slow down while brakes still work -- a strategy that does not work if above 
the threshold to begin with. If slowing down means walking it down, then 
that's how I go slower. Grin. I agree with you that tire width and pressure 
play a big role.

There was one very steep hill in the bottom on the canyon that was no issue 
to descend (no big rocks or technical aspect to it) that was challenging to 
climb up. Lots of rear tire spin. However, it was much easier to climb when 
I had my 3-year-old on the back rack adding weight to my rear tire while 
standing.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, May 2, 2013 9:39:41 AM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> It's more than a matter of feeling the nuances of traction, if you haven't 
> got any. I recall a time where I was trying to ride my Atlantis down a 
> steep, sandy fire road. I had to crash the bike to stop; traction was just 
> absent. But I'm guessing that softness and width of tires, as well as lugs, 
> make a difference; I was riding 32 mm tires, and now that I think about it, 
> they probably had way too much air in them.
>
>
> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Deacon Patrick <[email protected]<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> I never went fast and kept it very slow in the steep parts. It's simply a 
>> matter of feeling the nuances of the traction through the bike, something I 
>> imagine riding barefoot helps with. Tires are Schwalbe Duremes, so not 
>> super aggressive (by mountain bike standards), but they have some decent 
>> lugs on them.
>>
>> Weight on the bike helps too. The parts I walked down, and watching my 
>> kids walk theirs down, the bikes were definitely sliding a lot. Weight of 
>> the rider really helped.
>>
>>  
>>  
>>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson
>
> My hovercraft is full of eels 
>

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