If that became the new wheel paradigm the material of the "loops" would 
become the performance increment and wheel snobbery would be talk of "flex 
to failure", stiffness and weight. I don't see how one could produce 
predictable performance results with that design; the rims seem so much a 
structural element they would become dead or deadening to the resulting 
wheel (to anyone having put together a nice set of spoked wheels). Not so 
much as the semi disc wheels like the trispoke; the serious meat of 
BSNYC-posted photos of decorated pedestrian, non-biker, "biker cred" 
cruising bikes. I hope that it is loop wheels there next, not spoked ones.

My dad's first attempt to teach me to ride a bike was on a little rig with 
solid (airless) tires of a particularly evil squarish profile that had me 
elevate onto a hard squirrelly knife edge in every lean or steer moment. My 
four year old vocabulary failed to provide me the adequate descriptive 
tools to communicate why I was having such a hard time and was bleeding so 
much. The next weekend came a bike I could barely mount but could pedal 
once on the saddle; risky for a parent unsure of their kid's riding 
potential, but it had real pneumatic tires and I rode as if I was born on 
that bike (a purple Kent).

I'll be on 36° spoked wheels and pneumatic tires until eBay no longer lists 
them if alternative designs catch hold. 

Andy Cheatham
PIttsburgh

On Friday, May 3, 2013 1:30:55 PM UTC-4, pb wrote:
>
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:51:58 PM UTC-7, Jan Heine wrote:
>>
>> Airless tires have so much resistance that you'd rather change a flat 
>> every 10 miles! We tested a set of airless tires for our latest tire test 
>> (Bicycle Quarterly Spring 2013), and found that they used 50% more power 
>> than a good racing tire. Maintaining 20 mph was very hard work. And in 
>> corners, they squirmed so much that it was really disconcerting. 
>
>  
> Jan,  all due respect, I think you're still completely missing the point.  
> I doubt that many riders on the Dahon which is the current target of this 
> work are trying to maintain 20 mph.  Additionally, the small diameter of 
> the 20" wheel reduces rotating weight to an extent which might somewhat 
> offset rolling resistance.  (No doubt I'll be mathematically 
> proven completely wrong about that, but consider that urban trips are 
> heavily stop-start-stop-start.)   If one considers the likely trip distance 
> and trip type of an urban Dahon, utility effectiveness may trump other 
> factors.
>  
> On another subject -- I have to give the inventor credit for a campaign 
> which has exceeded its investment target.  The kickstarter is pushing 
> $US70,000, more than 10% over its target, with two weeks yet to go.  
> Apparently a number of  people think this idea has merit.  Even if it 
> ultimately fails, I sincerely congratulate Mr. Pearce on his efforts.    
>  
>      
>

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