Raingear simply doesn't work at keeping you dry if you are doing something like 
riding up a hill.  There is no point in worrying about staying dry because it's 
not going to happen.  You are either going to get wet from rain or wet from 
sweat.  The main thing is to avoid hypothermia if it is cool and wet, 
especially when descending.

My single layer Ventile jacket is one of the best "breathing" jackets I have 
used, but it is a showerproof rather than rainproof jacket.  The Greenspot 
jacket is double layered Ventile- less breathable but resistant to water 
intrusion longer.

As for "rain" jackets, my Showers Pass is the best I have used.  It is well 
ventilated and made from eVent material.  It won't keep you dry for 6 hours in 
a downpour, but then in those cases you should probably be indoors.  ;-)  In a 
long soaking rain with little wind, I would prefer my Carradice rain cape.  The 
ventilation is about as good as it gets and just the tops of my arms and 
shoulders get damp with sweat.



On May 9, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Deacon Patrick <[email protected]> wrote:

> In my experience if a jacket needs ventilation zips it isn't breathable 
> enough even with them.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:42:44 PM UTC-6, Norman R wrote:
>> 
>> I don't know ventile, but I'd like pit zips.
>> 
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:14:18 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a single layer ventile jacket. It's great for rain/wet snow 2 hours 
>>> or less, but soaks through after that (like yesterdays 6 hour ride). I'm 
>>> looking for ideas that meet these criteria:
>>> 
>>> -- Highly breathable. No less breathable than ventile.
>>> -- At least as hearty against brush, briers, and branches as ventile.
>>> -- Hood option, ideally removable/stoable.
>>> -- Shell only for year-round use.
>>> 
>>> I"m considering Hilltrek's Greenspot Double Ventile, but it is pricy. 
>>> http://www.hillgear.com/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_Double_Ventile_Jacket.html
>>> 
>>> Other ideas?
>>> 
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>> 
>>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
>>> www.OurHolyConception.org
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