I felt it here:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/norro/8651662543/in/set-72157633249441487/

On Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:00:17 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:
>
> That last was meant for Tim :-)
>
> Hugh
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:58:28 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Hey Norman get out of my head!  :-) 
>>
>> The greatest Hobo Band ever. RIP Richard, Rick & Levon. My sound track 
>> through life.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:38:33 PM UTC-7, Norman R wrote:
>>>
>>> My idea of classy hobo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:14:51 PM UTC-4, PeterG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Love the ClassyHobo thing...I picture a charlie chaplain type leaning 
>>>> against a Homer and contently looking at the world go by....
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 7:59:00 AM UTC-7, grant wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm late to this one but jusr read Jan's thing about the way he likes 
>>>>> bikes and the way I or Riv does, and so...there's really nothing he left 
>>>>> out, or to add. 
>>>>>
>>>>> One thing to keep in mind that's easy to not keep in mind is that  a 
>>>>> group like this has already been filtered through progressively finer 
>>>>> sieves until here we all are, comparing two species of planaria, while 
>>>>> maybe losing the big picture, which includes tigers, volcanos, 
>>>>> vaudeville, 
>>>>> and black holes.
>>>>> Jan's planaria is rando; RIV's is kind of classy hobo, but they're 
>>>>> both practibo and in such similar ways, beautifo. Rando came in the '40s 
>>>>> and no doubt had its own influences, but RHerse was at the center of it, 
>>>>> and there were a few others (read Jan's book, omg, if I may!). 
>>>>>
>>>>> CHobo bikes like ours wouldn't exist without those. I'd be hooking up 
>>>>> with assorted Chinese bike factories looking for the best deals on forks 
>>>>> and trying to keep abreast of the lastest nanotechnological progress in 
>>>>> carbon, or something. 
>>>>>
>>>>> So, when it comes to a little more or less trail, a little more or 
>>>>> less integration of racks, and big saddlebags versus big handlebar 
>>>>> bags---in the picture that's only slightly bigger than the one outside 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> powerful microscope, it's all the same. Jan's contribution is like salt's 
>>>>> contribution, at least that's one way I think about it. He is 
>>>>> thumbs-upping 
>>>>> Herse and the old French guys, pointing to them, but in doing that he's 
>>>>> actually making a huge contribution to modern bikes and styles and 
>>>>> tastes, 
>>>>> educating along the way. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, there's nothing TO take away from the old Frenchies (as I 
>>>>> call them, but I'm sure Jan has never), but because of the size of the 
>>>>> bike-riding population today, Jan is himself more influential, and I'm 
>>>>> one 
>>>>> he's influencing. Periodically, while he's up there doing his thing and 
>>>>> I'm 
>>>>> down here doing mine/RIV's, we get tossed into the ring as antagonists, 
>>>>> which makes us both feel weird, since----it ain't like that at all. I've 
>>>>> known Jan for close to 20 years. What we have in common brought us 
>>>>> together 
>>>>> and keeps us that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> His book is a masterpiece. I've read the whole thing and have dipped 
>>>>> into it many times since. It's soothing to the eyes and feels like a cozy 
>>>>> blanket on a chilly evening (the chilliness coming from non-planarial 
>>>>> bikes!)
>>>>>
>>>>> G
>>>>>
>>>>

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