>
> Hi John.  I bought a Nitto Grip with a Saddlesack M, and have used it on 
> Brooks B15, B17 and B68, always with a rack under the bag - Nitto R14 on 
> Schwinn Sports Tourer, Pletscher on Specialized Sirrus, and Nitto Campee 
> on Rivendell Hillborne. Plays well enough with all of those. The Grip's 
> offset changes the front-to-back position of the bag relative to the 
> saddle, rack and wheel, but I haven't really cared. I bought it so I can 
> take the bag with me, so I don't sweat security.  Can't be too much worse 
> than leather straps in saddle loops, though, can it? However, if you want 
> better security, you could probably replace the Shimano quick-release with 
> one of those carved-nut axle caps - Riv and Peter White sell them - I use 
> one for a generator wheel but forget the brand name.  Keep the keyed socket 
> on your key chain, and spin it off pretty quickly.
> Good luck!
>
 

> Ben
>

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