I should have noted .... I use a 0 degree 13cm. stem on my 60cm Bombadil 
even with it's long-ish top tube.  If the TT was more than a cm. shorter , 
I'd use a 14cm. 
My bars are a couple of inches above the middle of the saddle.  But with 
the Albas I can literally ride with my elbows on top of the bars in hight 
winds, so having lower bars is not necessarily better .  An Aerodynamic 
position is not all about bar height, because one with a flatish back and 
arms bent at a right angle is more aero than one with a flatish or rising 
back and arms pointed downward at an angle to lower bars.  The arms are 
levers ... and are meant to bend !!!   



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