I feel the Newbaum's colors fade super fast. Green, red, black, for sure. 
Maybe the blue and orange less so. The Viva forest green stayed pleasantly 
dark forever. According to my memory...
I don't have any problem taping with Newbaum's, Viva, or whatever black 
cloth tape the Bike Peddler had hidden in the back. I did shellac the 
black! First shellackage for me. It looks and feels great. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:57:41 AM UTC-7, Minh wrote:
>
> Steve,
>
> Now keep in mind that i only tape 1-2 times a year, and the order i've 
> taped in the last few years (from longest ago to most recent) is tressotar, 
> newbaums, tressotar, vo, newbaums, viva so my comments should be considered 
> with the fact that the more recent ones are the one's i like best.  but i 
> found the viva easiest to keep straight and the vo the hardest.  that could 
> be a function of getting better over time.  
>
> if i were to do a more detailed accounting i'd add these attributes, 
> mostly subjective/eye-of-the-beholder:
> viva:
> pros: feels soft, bright colors, thinner/easier to lay down
> cons: short length per roll (when compared to newbaums) makes covering 
> wide bars tough, thin (less cushion), expensive
>
> newbaums: affordable, long per roll makes even widest bars easy to cover, 
> way too many colors
> cons: not as soft as viva, weave is not as tight
>
> tressostar: pretty close to newbaums, not as long per roll
> cons: traditional color choices, thinner then newbaums but not as tight 
> weaved as viva
>
> vo: long per roll, wider then others, thicker
> cons: thicker, has a strange "feel" 
>
> overall my order would be same taking into account all factors.  my 
> biggest gripe with the viva is that it is expensive (relative to others) 
> and a little too short (though the same length as tressostar).  The viva's 
> usually come with bar-end plugs, but not an advantage if you don't need 
> them.  but i'm willing to overlook these as the viva feel the nicest to the 
> hand.
>
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 3:41:13 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2013-07-02 at 11:40 -0700, Minh wrote: 
>> > i believe one's like-dislike of cotton bar tape has to do with one's 
>> > most recent experience wrestling with each brand! 
>> > i've tried all the major ones, viva, newbaums, tressotar, velo-orange, 
>> > and that's the order i would rate them personally.  the viva is 
>> > expensive, but it actually has a slightly softer feel to the hand 
>> > (really hard to explain).  i think newbaums is the best value as the 
>> > rolls are really long, and they hold up well.  i didn't like the vo 
>> > one as it's really wide and thicker--which may be an advantage 
>> > depending on your preference. 
>>
>> How would you rank them in order of wrestling difficulty?  I personally 
>> found Newbaums to be exceptionally hard to wrap compared to Tressostar. 
>> I haven't tried the others. 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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