Philip, thanks again. I look forward to looking at the new version. My
apologies for not citing you correctly in the first send. Bob


On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My pleasure. I maintain the spreadsheet, but I didn't create the original
> Excel formulas. That was Dave Adams, and he based his formula on Frank
> Berto's measurements, as reported by Bicycle Quarterly.
>
> Fellow list member Allan Folz wrote new formulae for the Android Tire
> Pressure app we worked on together (and are working on updating right now,
> actually), so they're slightly different at the extremes. Amazon lets you
> demo the app for free online, if you're interested in a different approach:
> http://www.amazon.com/Edison-Gauss-Publishing-Pressure-Calculator/dp/B008J0YAHM
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:28:27 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Bob and Philip! My main gage is to have enough pressure to not
>> get snake bit on rocks or roots, but not a whole lot more than that.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:34:22 PM UTC-6, Robert Barr wrote:
>>>
>>> Deacon, there is a spreadsheet calculator built that uses the data from
>>> Jan's extension and discussion of Frank Berto's earlier work. You can
>>> access it at http://www.biketinker.com/**2010/bike-resources/optimal-**
>>> tire-pressure-for-bicycles/<http://www.biketinker.com/2010/bike-resources/optimal-tire-pressure-for-bicycles/>.
>>> Read the post and then click on "tire pressure calculator" in the black bar
>>> at the top of the page. I have been fascinated by how well it works.
>>> Everyone that I have talked with has lowered their tire pressures and had a
>>> better ride. I am sure I first read about the spreadsheet on this forum,
>>> but I couldn't find the original post - my apologies to the original
>>> poster. Bob (Indianapolis)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fascinating pressure chart and 15% compression rule. Thanks.
>>>> Extrapolating it for 50mm tires and 190lbs (+ whatever weight I have in my
>>>> bags), I'm guessing my usual pressure is spot on. I'm actually quite
>>>> comfortable with my usual pressure (likely 40-50 psi) for paved, dirt, and
>>>> trail riding. I just found it intriguing that I noticed the higher pressure
>>>> and did not like it.
>>>>
>>>> With abandon,
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, July 8, 2013 8:42:19 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like the fenders fit about as close to the tire as possible.
>>>>> If deflating to your normal pressure made the sound go away, bingo, you 
>>>>> got
>>>>> it!  FWIW, once I got up to 40 mm tires on my Atlantis, pressure seems a
>>>>> minor item.  I pump the back up to 60ish & front to 50ish, then ride until
>>>>> they feel mushy (usually several weeks).  Larger tires would probably be
>>>>> even less sensitive.
>>>>>
>>>>> The article that Ron mentions is excellent & gives a good starting
>>>>> point for arriving at an optimal personal pressure.  I find it reassuring
>>>>> that smarter people than I have spent some time & energy on the question,
>>>>> and the answer is that pressure is not that critical with larger size
>>>>> tires.  It's worth thinking about & experimenting with to find out what
>>>>> works best for you, your bike, & your loads.
>>>>>
>>>>> dougP
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, July 8, 2013 1:19:41 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not really sure what tire pressure I ride with, I just know it by
>>>>>> feel. On my recent S24O I kept hearing the bizarre sound that I could not
>>>>>> place. I hand't heard it on pavement on the climb up, it just started 
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> the dirt started. An odd reverberation. Checked all bolts to ensure they
>>>>>> were snug. Fender rubbing? No. All other checks negative. Felt my tire.
>>>>>> Yowza! Rock hard. Deflated it to the proper hard squish. Bike rode better
>>>>>> and sound eliminated. I'd forgotten to check the pressure after I had my
>>>>>> spoke fixed at my LBS. They must just automatically inflate to max.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With abandon,
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
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