According to Ben's Cycle website, the Voyager Hyper is the new name of the RandoHyper.
On Saturday, July 13, 2013 8:49:49 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: > > Following our recent discussion on the search for supple, 40 mm tires, Rob > Perks of Ocean Air Cycles (http://oceanaircycles.com/) lent me a pair of > Vittoria Randonneur Hyper tires to try. After putting over 1,000 miles on > them in all types of riding, I'm suitably impressed with the performance > and the ride comfort. While this tire does not appear on Vittoria's > website under the "Rando Hyper" label, the Voyager Hyper appears to be > quite similar. > > For reference, my Atlantis came with 35 mm Panaracer Paselas back in '03. > After managing to accumulate a fair number of sidewall cuts, I changed to > Panaracer's T-Servs when the rear Pasela wore out. It was a long time ago > so the ride of the Pasela is lost to memory but I recall the T-Servs > feeling noticeably stiffer. Then I discovered Schwalbe's Marathon Supremes > & that's all I've run now for perhaps 5-6 years. In fairness to my > previous tires, it was only after moving to Schwalbe that I discovered the > comfort of lower air pressure. My baseline is the 40 mm Marathon Supreme > at 50 psi front / 60 psi rear. A key feature for me is the great mileage > and lack of flats with Schwalbe. > > I did not weigh the Vittorias but holding one in one hand and a Schwalbe > in the other there is not a noticable difference. Assuming the Voyager is > the replacement for the Rando, they are roughly 50 grams lighter than the > 40 mm Schwalbe, per each mfg's website. That's not enough for me to > notice. > > After mounting up the Vittorias and inflating to the same 50 & 60 psi as > the Schwalbes, I've now ridden them in daily riding, off-road adventures, > and a lodging tour. They do indeed ride smoother & with greater comfort > than Marathon Supremes. The Marathon does not have an aggressive tread and > is only so-so off-road (OK on hard clay adobe; not so hot in soft stuff). > The Vittoria has even less tread & is really marginal off-road. Even on > hard pack, it's prone to spinning under load. This was the tire I used on > the Loch Leven adventure and it does slide around. In fairness, the advice > was to "run knobbies". > > But these kinds of tires are not intended for serious off-road work, and > I'm clumsy at best under those conditions anyway. On the road they are > wonderful and I'd recommend them for general riding and touring. For a > load, I bump up the pressure 10 psi and they still ride great. In over > 1,000 miles I did get one flat (wouldn't you know it, within the last mile > of Hostel Obispo). My normal flat rate with Marathon Supremes is about 1 > on the rear every 5,000 miles and seldom to never on the front. > > Now that Marathon Supremes have gotten quite pricey ($80 at Rivendell & > another $10 from Schwalbe on-line) I may move onto something more > comfortable and less spendy for everyday use, saving the Schwalbes for > tours. Rob has a tire project he's working on that sounds interesting and > of course there's always the Pasela default or several others that were > mentioned in the recent thread. Anyway, it was fun to have an improvement > in comfort and to find something new to obsess about. > > dougP > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
