My friend was in the market for a new bicycle with a budget of around 
$800.00.  He'd looked at various aluminum mountain bikes and talked to me 
about it - he'd mentioned that he'd possibly like a single speed.  I 
suggested he check out the Surly line of bikes and maybe push his budget a 
little and get something he'd really enjoy.  Being a Rivendell owner 
(recent acquisition) and having followed this list and GP's writings for 
the last few years, I have certain ideas about bicycle fit.  Not being a 
crotch-worrier, I like to start with the largest straddle-able frame and 
work from there.  A fist-full of seat post, bars around saddle height etc. 
 Using this formula as a starting basis, I urged my friend to try a 62cm 
Crosscheck (a single speed).  He loved it.  The store was adamant that a 
58cm was he needed, with the saddle jacked up a good two fist-fulls and the 
bars well below the saddle height, because "that's where the power is".  My 
friend test rode the 58, the 60 and then the 62cm and there was no way he 
was going back.  The steerer tubes on all sizes had been cut quite low, but 
on the 62cm, the set-up worked perfectly for my friend. The mechanic was 
not happy about this and I was the unwelcome "expert-friend", even though 
they made the sale and my friend rode out the store on his new bike.  The 
one he wanted.

I suppose we all get locked into ideas and philosophies, but without my 
input (as right or wrong as it may be), they would have sized him by 
putting the saddle height above his hip bone and made the bars a few inches 
below saddle height.  This was their fitting method.  At the end of the 
day, my friend is delighted - he exceeded his budget by $175 and got a very 
pretty bicycle that has clearance for 700 x 45 with fenders. Even with my 
pretty LL there, I was jealous of his purchase.  The shop had never heard 
of Rivendell, which made me wonder just how small a corner of the bike 
world I must live in, hanging out here on the RBW list.


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