And I should point out that bike parts often have a hard life. Expecting a zero percent failure rate is unreasonable.
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 2:52:34 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > > With respect to Alex Wetmore, I personally find this kind of blanket > condemnation based on a single example to be both misleading and irritating > (and ubiquitous on the internet). I've been selling and personally using > the 770/780 series XT hubs with the aluminum axles since they were > introduced, and have seen no such problems, even on examples that are used > and/or abused heavily. In my experience, they are the best bang for the > buck, and based on sheer numbers of debilitating hub failures I've > seen/repaired, the 770/780 XT hubs are more reliable than recent Phil > cassette hubs. > > > > On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:12:36 PM UTC-5, Brewster Fong wrote: >> >> >> On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:36:08 AM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: >>> >>> >>> Actually, go with LX. More durable than the XT, it's only drawback >>> compared to the XT is a little bit of weight. These are things I have not >>> directly tested on my own; I am repeating what Rich at Rivendell told me. >>> My LX hub wheels have been outstanding. The hubs look really good and cost >>> less than XT too. >>> >> >> Alex Wetmore warned of the problems with the XT (M770) hubs that have >> aluminum axles: >> >> >> "There is one major problem with the LHT wheels. *They are using the >> FH-M770 rear hub, which has smaller bearings (3/16") than standard >> Shimano rear hubs (1/4") and uses aluminum axles with easy to strip >> threads. >> >> I knew about the smaller bearings, but just learned about the aluminum >> axle this weekend with a friend visited with a "broken" one. *When he >> took it apart in my shop he discovered that the end cap had stripped >> the threads in the axle. *I took a photo which you can find here: >> >> >> http://alexandchristine.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Shimano-XT-Aluminum-Axle/10997988_eTAGA#768940509_7GQHt >> >> >> The axle in the rear is a standard 10mm steel Shimano hub axle. *You >> can see that the thread pitch and the height of the threads is the >> same on each. He had not adjusted the bearings from the Shimano >> factory before having this failure. *I personally think that this is a >> silly place to save weight on a touring bike and would recommend LX >> hubs over XT ones for touring and commuting wheelsets. *Since the end >> cap is also used to preload the bearings it will not be fully threaded >> onto the axle. *In this >> case it looks like it was being held on with only two or three >> threads. I was disappointed to see this "development". >> >> *XT has almost always been light in smart ways, so that it ends up a >> little lighter than LX without giving up any durability. *Now it looks >> like LX is the durable group and My heavy duty city/tour wheelset is >> built on plain Deores. The bearing feel is phenomenal compared to even >> five years ago. The seals are magnificent. They just need a little >> touch of the cone wrench out of the box. >> >> So you have been warned....Good Luck! >> >> >>> >>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 7:59 AM, mikel...@juno.com wrote: >>> >>> tried and true XT >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> 30-second trick for a flat belly >>> This daily 30-second trick BOOSTS your body's #1 fat-burning hormone >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5214d62890ccd56284a0fst02duc >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> James Warren >>> jimcw...@earthlink.net >>> >>> - 700x55 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
