He was there till 1994 IIRC.

Best,

~Hugh


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Tom Virgil <tevir...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Come to think of it, I could do the trigonometry for a given bottom
> bracket height and crank arm length and see how much more "lean" one gets
> out of a lower q factor.  Not that my aging carcass needs it.
>
> Did a bit of searching and found the 1991 Bridgestone 
> catalog<http://www.sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1991/pages/bridgestone-1991-13.htm>talks
>  about it but doesn't do the math.  Wonder if Grant was around there
> for that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Sunday, December 1, 2013 5:52:21 PM UTC-8, Tom Virgil wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Scott.  I found the Andel
>> <http://www.andel.com.tw/products/products_show.php?language=_eng&pid=3&cid=18>
>> site.
>>
>> I also found Origin8 and TA cranksets that have the look.  The TA
>> Cyclotourist Pro 5 VIS
>>
>>
>> <http://www.renehersestore.com/catalog/TA%20172.5%20arm%20and%20bb%20combo.JPG>
>>
>> but at around $440 for just the arms and spider, it comes pretty dearly.
>>
>> The IRD can be had for around $170 
>> here<http://smartbikeparts.com/cart.php?action=add&itm_id=SBP28693&continue=search_details.php%3Fitm%3DSBP28693+6195073090>
>>  which
>> is competitive with the Sugino Alpina.  The IRD has a better q-factor (140
>> mm versus 159 mm) but I am not very sophisticated about what q-factor means
>> to me or how it affects me.  The immortal Sheldon Brown gives a plausible
>> case for q-factor, or tread:
>>
>> The tread, or "Q factor" of a crankset is the horizontal width of the
>> cranks, measured from where the pedals screw in. The wider the tread, the
>> farther apart your feet will be. It is generally considered a good idea to
>> keep the tread fairly narrow. There are three main reasons for this:
>>
>>
>>    - The hip joint is optimized for walking, and in normal walking the
>>       footsteps are pretty much in line, with little or no "tread."
>>       - For standing pedaling, the farther out the pedals are from the
>>       centerline, the harder you have to pull on the handlebar to 
>> counterbalance
>>       the tendency of the pedaling force to tip the bike sideways.
>>       - The wider the tread, the higher the bottom bracket needs to be
>>       to prevent clipping a pedal while pedaling through a turn.
>>
>> 19 mm difference is between 5/8 and 3/4 of an inch.  I have never really
>> had cranksets with different q factors side by side, but I have clipped a
>> pedal and flipped a bike.  So I am somewhat programmed to agree smaller
>> might be better.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, December 1, 2013 4:45:24 PM UTC-8, Scott G. wrote:
>>>
>>> They are Andel cranks.
>>>
>>> http://www.andel.com.tw/products/products_show.php?
>>> language=_eng&pid=40&cid=18#
>>>
>>>
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