Hello Michael,

Here is the table from the Rivendell site:

No. 2 fits tube gaps 42cm - 46cm
No. 3 fits tube gaps 46cm - 52cm
No. 4 fits tube gaps 50cm - 56cm  

Here is a link to the page. <http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pu2.htm>

My 52 Samuel Hillborne runs a legacy HPX (all black) that I purchased in 
1986.  I have no idea of the size.  We ran throughout pumps in the store 
until we found one that fit the bike I had at the time.  It has be 
repurposed for the Sam and fits under his top tube perfectly.

My All Road D6 Rando has a new HPX No. 3.  I used the chart and page.

I do use pieces of used tire at the pump peg and the seat/top tube junction 
to snug the pump and protect the paint.  That's just me; I am fussy like 
that.

Best Regards,

Tom


On Saturday, January 18, 2014 5:08:50 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
> OK, so, thanks to the other thread asking about Riv riders and their 
> preferred pumps, I thought I would get one frame pump for now, just to get 
> on the road, and I will research the much more complex minis at leisure.
>
> Now, my Sam TT measurement of 51.5 (inside seat tube to inside head tube 
> measurement) puts me on either size 3 or size 4 according to RBW 
> description.
>
> Will one hold tighter than the other?
>
> I was thinking maybe the larger size would compress the spring more and 
> hold it tighter in the frame tubes?
> I saw a demo on youtube and the pump the guy had on his bike was wiggly.
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>

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