And that's the ticket Bruce! I agree with the Riv philosophy that choice doesn't always equal good; that if some disaster happened and you could only have one bike for the rest of your life, you'd be perfectly happy with a Riv, no matter if it's a AR, custom, Atlantis...
I mean that's the point, right? Every bike except the Roadeo is deliberately versatile. Of course since we have choices those questions will always rise up, but at some point you gotta just ride. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Bruce Herbitter <[email protected] > wrote: > Rivs have always undergone fairly frequent change. Part of that is a > result of the production scheme (all fab is outsourced, which leads to > changes in price and availability) and part is due to new ideas occurring > to the designer or being brought to his attention. As he has often said, > the RBW ethos stays in every bike they make. I don;t think any of them is a > "bad" bike or a "Edsel" of the bike world. Some are better suited to some > riders or conditions than others. > > Tailwinds > > > > > > On 1/19/2014 1:20 PM, James Warren wrote: > >> >> Another little detail is that the name All Rounder only had definition in >> a capital-letter sense in the time before the bikes marked "Rivendell" were >> considered custom. >> >> The very first Riv offerings in the 90's (Road, All-Rounder, the rare >> Mountain, and later the Longlow) were all their fanciest frames and all had >> standard geometry charts. They were not custom. >> >> The All Rounder, non-custom bike had a geometry chart that eventually >> said 700C for the bigger sizes, 26" inch for the smaller sizes (59 cm being >> the cutoff I think.) There were set sizes and it wasn't advertised to be >> customizable. >> >> Then came the Atlantis, and that's really when the >> Rivs-with-fun-names-on-the-downtube-that-didn't-say-Rivendell started to >> become the norm. Sometime around this, Grant announced that the bikes >> called Rivendell are all considered custom now and it became clear that >> there would be two tiers of Riv frame offereings. >> >> Henceforth with the fancier pure Rivendells, you could still get >> something that met all the characteristics of an all rounder but there was >> now no geometry chart to give it that name as a model name. And as a >> custom, I'm guessing the wheel-size was determined on a case-by-case basis >> (with some limitations imposed by Rivendell.) >> >> So all-rounders still exist in the same way that Bombadils still exist. >> (You have to be willing to go custom.) >> >> -Jim W. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- "I want the kind of six pack you can't drink." -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
