Another for firing an electronic trigger marker is an electronic on/off 
switch.  The Turnigy switch from Hobby King costs less than $7.  Course, there 
is shipping too ... heh.
 
Mike

From: Frank Pittelli <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: M4A3 75mm Build Project


The C12C is not currently being sold because of stocking issues (too 
many projects, too little time).  But, it is only one part of the 
control system needed for a tank.  Here's a basic guideline for the 
necessary systems and what can be used to implement them.  You can make 
it cheaper or more expensive and you can make it simpler or more 
complex, but this is a good place to start.

1) A stock 5 or 6 channel RC transmitter/receiver.  The C12C is just one 
such system.  Numerous 2.4Ghz RC packages are now available for less 
money (less than $50 from China and around $100 in the US).  Some have 
more features than others, but tanks generally don't need all the fancy 
features.  Servo-reverse is basically the only required feature.

2) You'll need either a dual motor controller or two separate motor 
controllers plus a mixing circuit.  Affordable options include the 
Sabretooth 2x25 ($125) and Sabretooth 2x60 ($190), depending on the size 
of your motors and their current draw.  We've also recently started 
experimenting with the Talon SR Speed Controller ($60).  That's a single 
motor controller, so you'll need two of them and a mixing circuit ($40), 
which puts the total price in the same ballpark as a dual motor 
controller.  If your radio system already has tank-style channel mixing, 
then you won't need the additional mixing circuit.  Even when scratch 
built with custom parts, getting the price below $100 is nearly 
impossible for a repeatable, reliable and easily wired solution.

3) A rotate system is nothing more than a motor ($10), a drive mechanism 
(gear, pulley, chain, or friction wheel) and either a servo ($10) and a 
simple pair of switches ($2) to provide on-off control or an inexpensive 
12V speed control ($25-40). Rotate motors don't require a lot of 
current, usually less than 5A in normal usage.

4) An elevate system can be implemented using either a stock servo or a 
simple motor with on-off controls.  If the gun assembly is properly 
balanced (add small weights until perfection is achieved), then 1/4 
scale servos ($30) should handle the job.  There are also new, high-tech 
servo gear-head products that provide more torque/precision ($100).  A 
low RPM motor ($10-15) can also provide the same capabilities, while 
being cheaper and more powerful.

5) Fire control is the simplest of all systems.  If your marker has an 
electronic trigger, you only need a stock servo ($10) and a micro-switch 
($1).  If your marker has a manual trigger, a stock servo ($10) can be 
used to pull the trigger directly or a door-lock actuator ($6) and a 
servo/switch ($11) can pull the trigger.  Despite the slight extra cost 
and components, the door-lock actuator is the best solution because it 
can pull the trigger faster than a servo and is easier to mount to the gun.

Here are just some of the many web sites that supply the various parts 
described above:

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/- Spectrum 2.4Ghz radios
http://www.hobbyking.com/- Turnigy 2.4Ghz radios (US warehouse)

http://www.dimensionengineering.com/- Sabertooth dual motor controllers
http://www.andymark.com/- Talon SR motor controller

http://www.servocity.com/- servos, gear heads, mounts, RC switch

http://www.allelectronics.com/- door lock actuator, switches, motors
http://www.mpja.com/- switches, motors

On 5/22/2013 8:26 AM, S.Schramm wrote:
> Regarding the control system for my M4 Sherman. I've been looking all
> over RCTC, in the tank descriptions and in the different treads, trying
> to figure out the best solution. Would love to have proportional
> steering. What are you guys installing in your tanks as of 2013? I found
> that the C12C Control System looks very promissing. So on to the next
> step, how do i aquire / buy a complete C12C setup with some instructions
> regarding wireing and component layout. Im not the big electrician, but
> i can read schematics and have basic knowledge of AC DC components.

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