"If a noun or noun phrase occurs with a statement of responsibility, treat the noun or noun phrase as part of the statement of responsibility."
I would consider that such a noun or noun phrase should be something closely related to the statement of responsibility. That means that they can not be separated semantically. The noun or noun phrase is a part of the statement of responsibility. Without it, the meaning of the statement would not be complete. The case mentioned is a kind of loose. The noun, "a novel", could be in a subtitle. In such a situation, I would consider a solution that would benefit patrons more. Thanks. Joan On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Arakawa, Steven <steven.arak...@yale.edu>wrote: > I think that is the intention. It was brought up as an RDA change from > AACR2 at an early ALA pre-conference I attended. AACR2 1.1F12: “Treat a > noun phrase occurring in conjunction with a statement of responsibility as > other title information if it is indicative of the nature of the work.” RDA > 2.4.1.8: “If a noun or noun phrase occurs with the statement of > responsibility , treat the noun or noun phrase as part of the statement of > responsibility.” **** > > ** ** > > I later noticed that the second example in RDA 2.4.1.8 has “dramatised > adaptations” as part of the statement of responsibility. AACR2 uses the > same example and has “dramatised adaptations” as other title in 1.1F12. I > also think that cataloger judgment is involved. RDA 2.3.4: “Other title > information may include any phrase appearing with a title proper that is > indicative of the character, contents, etc., of the resource or the motives > for, or occasion of, its production, publication, etc.” **** > > ** ** > > If you had Tome 1 / a novel by X, it is still a statement. If you had > Tome 1 / novel X it really isn’t a statement anymore, and it could be said > that “novel” lacking a grammatical connection to “X” is an example of not > occurring with the statement of responsibility. You still have the latitude > to consider the noun phrase as indicative of the character, contents, etc. > of the resource: Davy Jones : a pirate novel / by Y, not Davy Jones / a > pirate novel by Y. ** ** > > ** ** > > Steven Arakawa **** > > Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation**** > > Catalog & Metadata Services, SML, Yale University**** > > P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240 > (203)432-8286 steven.arak...@yale.edu**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Benjamin A Abrahamse > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2012 2:24 PM > *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > *Subject:* [RDA-L] Quick question about RDA 2.4.1.8**** > > ** ** > > RDA 2.4.1.8 reads, "If a noun or noun phrase occurs with a statement of > responsibility, treat the noun or noun phrase as part of the statement of > responsibility."**** > > ** ** > > Does this mean that if we had the following two title pages:**** > > ** ** > > Tome**** > > a novel**** > > John Smith**** > > ** ** > > Another Tome **** > > a novel **** > > by John Smith**** > > ** ** > > The phrase "a novel" would be considered subtitle (in the first example), > but part of the statement of responsibility (in the second), solely > depending on whether or not the word "by" was there?**** > > ** ** > > --**** > > ** ** > > Benjamin Abrahamse**** > > Cataloging Coordinator**** > > Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems**** > > MIT Libraries**** > > 617-253-7137**** > > ** ** > -- Joan Wang Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax