Just a note here: 504 is not a quoted note, but one that is constructed:
Includes bibliographical references ()


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Dana Van Meter <vanme...@ias.edu> wrote:

> Thanks everyone.  I did see rule 1.7.1 at some point in my RDA travels,
> and then forgot about it.  I agree that it probably should apply in the
> case of the 504.  I hate that cataloging in RDA feels like assembling a
> puzzle every single time.  I wish that one didn’t have to jump to all over
> the place to find out how one thing should be done.  ****
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> Thanks again.****
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> -Dana****
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> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] *On Behalf Of *Cronquist, Michelle J
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 3:21 PM
> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> *Subject:* Re: [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note****
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> You’d omit the brackets, according to LC-PSS 1.7.1, which says “Do not use
> square brackets in notes except when they are used in quoted data,” and
> gives this example:****
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> 500 <http://desktop.loc.gov/saved/Mabibl_500> ##****
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> $a"Types of prayer wheels found in south central Tibet, by Mei Lin": pages
> 310-375.****
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> Not "... pages [310]-[375]."****
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> *From:* Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA <RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA>] *On
> Behalf Of *Dana Van Meter
> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 2:57 PM
> *To:* RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> *Subject:* [RDA-L] Unnumbered page in a 504 note****
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> Hello.  I’ve rooted around RDA several times trying to find an answer to
> this question and I can’t find one anywhere.  Is there any direction
> anywhere in RDA or in the policy statements that tell you what to do when
> you are noting that bibliographical references are present and are noting
> the page numbers the references fall on, and where either the starting or
> ending (though usually the starting) page is not numbered in the book
> itself.  In AACR2 we would put the correct page number inside square
> brackets.  In most of the cases of this situation I’ve seen in the RDA
> copy that’s out there, I see people just citing the page number without the
> square brackets.  I’ve only seen someone use square brackets once or
> twice.  The AACR2 in me hates to put the page number without the square
> bracket when the page is not numbered in the book itself, which is
> generally the case with most of the books I catalog, as the heading
> Bibliography (or Bibliographical References, or whatever the case may be) 
> usually
> appears a bit lower down on the page, and thus the page number is usually
> skipped on the starting page for the bibliographical references.  I’ve
> looked at rule 7.16.1.3 and the LC-PCC PS for 7.16.1.3 and neither mentions
> what to do in a bibliographical references note when the starting (or
> ending) page is not numbered in the book itself.****
>
> Is this mentioned anywhere in RDA, or in an LC-PCC PS?  If it’s not, can
> someone from LC monitoring this list please add this to the LC-PCC PS for
> 7.16.1.3 so I don’t have to hem and haw every time I encounter this
> situation?****
>
> Thanks very much for your help,****
>
> Dana Van Meter****
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> Cataloging Librarian****
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> Historical Studies-Social Science Library****
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> Institute for Advanced Study****
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> Princeton, NJ 08540****
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> vanme...@ias.edu****
>



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