The 1XX field relates only to the title in the 240 or 245. Fields 730 and 740 should be used for titles that do not have a personal, family, or corporate body name as part of the authorized access point. There is no inherent relationship between a title given in 7XX (or 8XX) and a name given in 1XX.
Kevin M. Randall Principal Serials Cataloger Northwestern University Library [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> (847) 491-2939 Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1978! From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joan Wang Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 3:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about preferred title for a compilation For separate works of one person/family/corporate body, I think that we use 730/740 fields. Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Harden, Jean <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Recording each separate work's title is something we do all the time in music cataloging. In MARC, you use the field 700 12 <creator's name>. $t <title of one work>. For each work, you do a new 700 field. When you name all the works this way, RDA (for instance, in 6.2.2.10.3, Alternative) allows you either to stop at that or also to include the conventional collective title, which in MARC would go in the 240. Jean Harden Music Catalog Librarian University of North Texas Denton, TX 76203 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Arthur Liu Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 1:30 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Question about preferred title for a compilation Hi Joan, Yes, I think that is correct: 6.2.2.10.3 a) covers selected works in a single form, and 6.2.2.10.3 b) covers selected works in more than one form (meaning, some of the selections are in one form, and some selections are in different form(s)). In the case of selected works in more than one form, I think we use the conventional collective title Works. followed by Selections (instead of, for example, Novels. Selections). LC prefers the alternative of using these conventional collective titles instead of recording each separate title. What I'm unsure of is, if we do record each separate work's title, how does that work in MARC? Thanks and have a great weekend as well! -Arthur On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Joan Wang <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Let me rephrase my question. Thanks to Arthur's help. Does 6.2.2.10.3 "other compilations" includes selected works in a single form, and selected works not in a single form? If it is, the languages of the rule is too "grey" :) For both categories, RDA tells us to record the preferred title for each of the works in a compilation. It also has an alternative: identify the parts collectively by recording a conventional collective title as applicable, followed by Selections. The example is Novels. Selections. I wonder how effective the alternative can be in the application of selected works not in a single form. A simple Selections seems to be more reasonable. Thanks for your time. I am also tired with the question :) Have a wonderful weekend! Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Joan Wang <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I think the lack of any subsection in 6.2.2 for compilations by more than one > ? person/family/corporate body means there are no special rules for those > compilations. In other words, we don't use "conventional collective titles" > for those, so we default to whatever title the compilation is known by (maybe > the title proper). I still think that the preferred tile for a work is different from a title proper found in a manifestation. So some instructions or references would be helpful. Thanks, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Joan Wang <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > "two or more but not all works ... in a particular form" means your phrase > "incomplete works in a single form". (6.2.2.10.3 a) ??? by the way, I feel that a good word would be selected works in single form and selected works not in single form. > I think the lack of any subsection in 6.2.2 for compilations by more than one > ? person/family/corporate body means there are no special rules for those > compilations. In other words, we don't use "conventional collective titles" > for those, so we default to whatever title the compilation is known by (maybe > the title proper). Seems to be reasonable. Thanks to Arthur, Joan Wang On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Arthur Liu <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Joan, My understanding is: "Complete works" means all the works by a person, in all forms that the person worked in. (6.2.2.10.1) "Complete works in a single form" means all the works by a person in a particular form, e.g. all the plays by a person, but not the novels by that person. (6.2.2.10.2) "Other compilations of two or more works" means incomplete works, or a compilation of two or more works by a person which does not constitute all the works by that person, and does not constitute all the works by that person in a particular form. (6.2.2.10.3) "two or more but not all works ... in a particular form" means your phrase "incomplete works in a single form". (6.2.2.10.3 a) "two or more but not all works ... in various forms" means your phrase "incomplete works not in a single form". (6.2.2.10.3 b) Your phrase "complete works not in a single form" is simply 6.2.2.10.1. For example, Person A wrote five plays and five novels. A compilation of all ten works would be 6.2.2.10.1. A compilation of all 5 plays (but no novels) would be 6.2.2.10.2 (same for a compilation of all 5 novels only). A compilation of three of the plays only would be 6.2.2.10.3a. A compilation of two of the plays and three of the novels would be 6.2.2.10.3b. I think the lack of any subsection in 6.2.2 for compilations by more than one person/family/corporate body means there are no special rules for those compilations. In other words, we don't use "conventional collective titles" for those, so we default to whatever title the compilation is known by (maybe the title proper). Arthur Liu Library Technician John A. Volpe National Transportation Systems Center (U.S.) On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joan Wang <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi, All I have a question about preferred title for a compilation. RDA 6.2.2.10 instructs us to record preferred title for a complication of works of one person/family/corporate body. It is organized by three sections: 6.2.2.10 Recording the Preferred Title for a Compilation of Works of One Person, Family, or Corporate Body * 6.2.2.10.1 complete works * 6.2.2.10.2 complete works in single form * 6.2.2.10.3 other complications of two or more works. I have a problem to understand 6.2.2.10.3. First of all, do we really need "of two or more works" in the heading? I assume that a compilation is always composed of more than one. If my understanding is correct, the term compilation already tells us that. Secondly, what are included in other complications? If following the logic inherent in the organization of 6.2.2.10. I would expect incomplete works, complete works not in single form, incomplete works in single form, and incomplete works not in single form after the two sections of complete works and complete works in single form. Actually under 6.2.2.10.3, it does have a condition: Record the preferred title for each of the works in a compilation that consists of: a) two or more but not all the works of one person, family, or corporate body, in a particular form or b) two or more but not all the works of one person, family, or corporate body, in various forms. Does a) condition means complete works not in single form and incomplete works not in single form? And b) means incomplete works? I assume that for these other compilations, we can record the preferred title for each of the works, or, use Selections, or, identify the parts collectively by recording a conventional collective title as applicable, followed by Selections, such as Novels. Selections. But RDA does not mention an alternative for Selections. Or we cannot use Selections at all? Also, is there a section for a compilation of works by more than one person/family/corporate body? RDA 6.27.1.4 (Compilations of Works by Different Persons, Families, or Corporate Bodies) does refer to 6.2.2 for constructing preferred title for a compilation of works by different persons, families, or corporate bodies. But I cannot find a relevant section under 6.2.2. I would expect that after 6.2.2.10. Any clarification would be appreciated. Thanks, Joan Wang Illinois Heartland Library System -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409<tel:618.656.3216x409> 618.656.9401Fax -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409<tel:618.656.3216x409> 618.656.9401Fax -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409<tel:618.656.3216x409> 618.656.9401Fax -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409<tel:618.656.3216x409> 618.656.9401Fax -- Zhonghong (Joan) Wang, Ph.D. Cataloger -- CMC Illinois Heartland Library System (Edwardsville Office) 6725 Goshen Road Edwardsville, IL 62025 618.656.3216x409 618.656.9401Fax
