Example 1: It depends on how you interpret "First printing, August 2012". While this might be the date of manufacture, it might also be the date of publication of the first printing -- and I was taught that an edition was described from a copy of the first printing of that edition. So I would probably give "2012" without brackets as the date of publication.
The copyright date, in this case, is not a core element; different institutions will have different policies about whether to include it. Example 2: As others have noted, it depends on whether you consider the paperback as a distinct manifestation. If so, then the date would be 2008. As with the previous example, I think I might interpret this as the date of publication of the paperback edition and give "2008" without brackets; although, admittedly, the wording in this case does tend to support treating 2008 as the date of printing. I would probably give some indication of when the work was first published. I would probably give this in a note "Hardcover edition published in 2007"; I doubt that I would give the copyright date on a record for the paperback; it would seem only to confuse the issue of when the paperback was published. If you are not making a separate description for the paperback, then I would not record the 2008 date anywhere in the record -- unless I added a note "Paperback edition published in 2008". John ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Deborah Fritz" <debo...@marcofquality.com> | To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA | Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 9:31:46 AM | Subject: [RDA-L] No date of publication, first printing | Dear RDA-L Folks, | I would very much like to get some broad feedback from as many of you | as possible, on how you would handle the dates for following two | resources: | Example 1 | Verso of book reads: | Copyright © 2013 | First printing, August 2012 | ISBN 9780321832740 | Which date would you use to supply the publication date: | a) the copyright date | b) the first printing date | Would you add any other date information? | --------------------- | Example 2 | Verso of book reads: | Copyright © 2007 | First printed in paperback 2008 | ISBN 977-0-300-14333-1 (pbk) | ISBN 978-0-300-12078-3 (alk. Paper) | The hardcover version was published in 2007 | Which date would you use to supply the publication date for the | paperback that you have: | c) the copyright date | d) the first printing (paperback) date | Would you add any other date information? | --------------------- | I’m trying to get a sense of how much variation we can expect to see | in copy cataloging records, for this type of situation. | If you would rather not share with the list, then would you please | reply to me personally at: debo...@marcofquality.com ? | Thanks very much, | Deborah | - - - - - - - - | Deborah Fritz | TMQ, Inc. | debo...@marcofquality.com | www.marcofquality.com