Heidrun I wouldn't assume that the title of a conference's proceedings was the name of the conference itself, without an explicit statement to that effect. It does have us scratching our heads occasionally - it's a new issue to deal with, now that LCRI 21.1.B1 has bitten the dust.
We were very glad to see the change in practice, though. We started following the LCRIs nearly 20 years ago, and it was most frustrating that a conference would be considered un-named even in the face of a statement like "these are the proceedings of a conference, held as one of a series of conferences at the so-and-so conference centre, and the name of the conference is "Fish". Un-named. Strictly speaking. Regards Richard _________________________ Richard Moore Authority Control Team Manager The British Library Tel.: +44 (0)1937 546806 E-mail: richard.mo...@bl.uk -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Heidrun Wiesenmüller Sent: 05 November 2013 19:33 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Conference names without "meeting", "symposium" a.s.o. Reading up on the treatment of conferences under RDA, I got a bit worried when I came to the question of the name of a conference. There's a very good presentation http://www.loc.gov/aba/rda/source/special_topics_conferences.ppt which, among many other useful things, explains that the name of conference does not have to include a word like "meeting", "symposium" a.s.o. any longer (slides 3-7). One of the examples given in the "British Library guide to RDA name authority records" (in the Toolkit, under global workflows) is: 111 2_ |a Ritual, Conflict and Consensus: Comparing Case Studies in Asia and Europe (Conference) |d (2010 : |c Budmerice, Slovakia) http://lccn.loc.gov/nb2012014893 So far, so good. But I find it difficult to imagine how this rule works in practice. In the "Ritual" example, there seems to have been explicit information in the book which made it clear that "Ritual, Conflict and Consensus: Comparing Case Studies in Asia and Europe" really was the name of the event (as the 670 field shows). But I assume that in many cases, all you've got is a resource with some title and some indication that the contents of the resource are the proceedings of a meeting, symposium or some such, which was held in a certain a place at a certain time. The title of the book may be the exact name of the conference (as it was held), or it may be something similar to the original name, or maybe the conference was called something quite different. For example, there is a book with the title proper "Johannes Secundus und die roemische Liebeslyrik" (Janus Secundus and Roman love poetry). In the preface, a symposium in Freiburg in 2002 is mentioned, but without giving a formal name of this. After some googling, I have reason to believe that the official name of the conference, when it was held, was "4. Neulateinisches Symposion" (4th Neo-Latin Symposium). Note that I got this information not from the "preferred sources of information in resources associated with the corporate body" which should be the first place to look (RDA 11.2.2.2), but from "other sources (including reference sources)". So, maybe I shouldn't have looked there at all... But I did, and with this background information I'd now argue that "Johannes Secundus und die roemische Liebeslyrik" was not the name of the conference, but rather its topic. But if I had only looked at the book (and I really don't think German catalogers have much time to spare for research), I might instead have decided that "Johannes Secundus und die roemische Liebeslyrik" was the name of the conference. Or should, according to 11.2.2.5.4 Conventional Name (exception for conferences etc.), "4. Neulateinisches Symposion" be considered to be the "more general name as one of a series of conferences", and "Johannes Secundus und die roemische Liebeslyrik" considered to be the "specific name of its own"? Then the latter should be chosen as the preferred name of the conference (although I can't even be sure that the title of the book exactly reflects the topic as it was announced for the symposium). I do hope somebody can ease my mind and give me some hints as to how these things are treated in practice. Heidrun -- --------------------- Prof. Heidrun Wiesenmueller M.A. Stuttgart Media University Wolframstr. 32, 70191 Stuttgart, Germany www.hdm-stuttgart.de/bi