Sorry, I just noticed there is an update to this thread. I can send you the
version of the photo that is in the repository (and will when I get home
this evening). I will see if my dad can send me the version of the photo
from his computer (that's what I was trying to back up, and I'm no longer in
the same town as that machine). As I said earlier, both files have the same
md5sum, so I'm not sure what differences there could be.

Look for an update tonight.

- Austin

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Andrew Ferguson <[email protected]>wrote:

> Robert,
>
> That's a very interesting diff file ... it consists only of copy commands,
> including several which are duplicated over and over.
>
> Do you think you could send me the photograph, both the version that is on
> the source machine and the version on the repository?
>
> I believe librsync is choking on it.
>
>
> thanks,
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Austin Roberts wrote:
>
>
> First, here is the original discussion:
>
>
> http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2/two-way-mirrors-of-external-mailing-lists-3/rdiff-backup-23/rdiff-creating-a-patch-file-when-there-are-no-changes-to-th-63313/
>
> Second
> I'm running rdiff-backup 1.2.5 on both systems. The windows system is using
> the native windows binary. On the windows PC, I am running rdiff-backup,
> using plink.exe for the remote schema, and backing up C:\\ to a folder on
> the linux PC.
>
> Most of the diffs are not gzipped. I assume they were small enough that the
> gzip overhead would make them bigger, so somewhere something decided not to
> compress the files. A few of the larger files have diffs large enough to be
> compressed.
>
> Using a photograph and diff that I can provide upon request, the md5sum for
> both the source and the destination file is
> 834c6f37ad3b53942d5842a97fce5df0. The hexdump of the diff is
>
> 0000000 7372 3602 0046 8008 064a 0260 4a20 6006
> 0000010 2002 064a 0260 4a20 e00e 4015 064a 0260
> 0000020 4a20 6006 2002 064a 0260 4a20 6006 2002
> 0000030 064a 0260 4a20 6006 2002 064a 0260 4a20
> 0000040 6006 2002 064a 0260 4b20 4037 0400 f85f
> 0000050 0000
> 0000051
>
> The file is 293.8 KB.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> - Austin
>
> PS: Andrew, sorry about the duplicate. I always forget to hit reply all and
> send to the list.
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Andrew Ferguson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2009, at 10:23 AM, Austin Roberts wrote:
>>
>>> I'm doing a backup (from Windows to Linux, though I'm not sure that's
>>> relevant), and I've noticed that a lot of files (especially pictures) that
>>> haven't changed at all are being incremented. It will say "Processing
>>> changed file ..." "Incrementing mirror file ..." Even though the file hasn't
>>> changed at all. The resulting diffs are generally between 9 and 141 bytes.
>>>
>>
>> Backing up from Windows to Linux is relevant because rdiff-backup inspects
>> the metadata on the file to determine whether it has changed and should be
>> backed up. Getting the algorithm right becomes more complicated with
>> platforms as different as Windows and Linux.
>>
>> In order to help you, you're going to have to describe your situation some
>> more. What version of rdiff-backup are you running on each end? Is it the
>> native Windows client or the Cygwin client? How are you doing the backup? If
>> you gunzip one of the diff.gz files, what does it say? (it will be in
>> binary, use hexdump) ... What does md5 report for the "different" files? How
>> large are the files which are being marked as "changed"?
>>
>>
>>  I found a discussion of this from 2004, and the consensus seemed to be
>>> that these were unique rsync deltas, even though the file hadn't changed.
>>> Someone fixed it by doing md5sums of the files on each side to make sure
>>> they were different before storing anything.
>>>
>>
>> Can you send a link to that discussion? Given it's age, it's probably not
>> relevant to your particular situation. The rdiff-backup code has changed a
>> lot in the last five years.
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> Andrew
>>
>
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