Hi Matt,

You are correct -- we need to clarify the fact that we don't fork or
copy the rdiff-backup codebase.

Just to be clear: we simply call out to your installed version of
rdiff-backup. We just provide a simpler, centralized interface to it.
If you look at our RPMs/DEBs, you we'll see that we "Require" the
rdiff-backup package.

By way of comparison, safekeep uses rdiff-backup under the hood the same
way say gcc used cpp, asm, cc1, ldd to build an executable. 
(this is no longer a valid comparison as gcc now integrates cpp directly
instead of calling out to it, but we don't do that for rdiff-backup).

Hope this is a better explanation,
Dimi.

On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 10:02 -0500, Matt Van Mater wrote:

> I read the pages you mentioned prior to posting and I feel that FAQ
> entry comparing and contrasting would be useful.
> 
> Do you plan on maintaining a parallel code base in the event
> rdiffbackup development resumes? Or will you integrate the two?
> 
> 
> On Feb 18, 2012 9:09 AM, "Frank Crawford" <fr...@crawford.emu.id.au>
> wrote:
> 
>         Matt,
>         
>         I think you have a misconception about what SafeKeep is, it is
>         a simplified interface to rdiff-backup, not a replacement.  It
>         simplifies such tasks as key deployment, snapshotting (yes,
>         even if bound to a particular volume manager) and just plain
>         running of backups.
>         
>         For more details on what it does, have a look at our home page
>         (http://safekeep.sourceforge.net) and in particular the
>         motivation page
>         (http://safekeep.sourceforge.net/motivation.shtml).
>         
>         Regards
>         Frank
>         
>         On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 08:40 -0500, Matt Van Mater wrote:
>         
>         > OK, So you're missing one key FAQ item:
>         > 
>         > How does your software differ from rdiff-backup?  A compare
>         > and contrast page would be nice.
>         > 
>         > The only thing i really saw of significance was the use of
>         > LVM for snapshotting... that's not a feature to me, in fact
>         > it feels more like reinventing the wheel and that's lock-in
>         > to a particular file system.
>         > 
>         > Tell me how you do it better (e.g. faster, more reliably,
>         > etc)!
>         > 
>         > On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Frank Crawford
>         > <fr...@crawford.emu.id.au> wrote:
>         > 
>         >         This is release 1.4.0 of SafeKeep, a centralized and
>         >         easy to use
>         >         backup application that combines the best features
>         >         of a mirror
>         >         and an incremental backup.
>         >         
>         >         What's new in this release:
>         >          - Add the ability to store script files on either
>         >         client or server.
>         >          - Rewritten snapshot creation to remove use of
>         >         "rbind".
>         >          - Automatic cleanup on next run after an abort.
>         >          - Support of LVM tagging for snapshots.
>         >          - Better handling of messages and tracebacks.
>         >          - A number of other code cleanups and bug fixes.
>         >          - Updated minimum Python support to Python 2.3.
>         >         
>         >         Many thanks to Andres Toomsalu, Ken Bass, Joe Steele
>         >         and Alexander List
>         >         for the fixes that made this release possible, and
>         >         to Dimi Paun for his
>         >         continual work with SafeKeep.
>         >         
>         >         Sources and binaries are available from the
>         >         following locations:
>         >         
>         >          - RedHat EL/CentOS 4,5,6 Fedora
>         >         8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16:
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-common-1.4.0-1.noarch.rpm
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-client-1.4.0-1.noarch.rpm
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-server-1.4.0-1.noarch.rpm
>         >         
>         >          - Ubuntu Dapper, Breezy, Hardy, Lucid, Maverick,
>         >         Natty, Oneiric and Precise:
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-common_1.4.0_all.deb
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-client_1.4.0_all.deb
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-server_1.4.0_all.deb
>         >         
>         >         Note: The Debian packages are not yet available.
>         >          They should be uploaded within
>         >         the next few days.
>         >         
>         >          - Source:
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-1.4.0.tar.gz
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-1.4.0-1.src.rpm
>         >         
>         >         The GPG Signing Key can be found in the following
>         >         location:
>         >         
>         >          
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/RPM-GPG-KEY-SafeKeep
>         >         
>         >         with fingerprint:
>         >         
>         >         pub   1024D/4E1CD0E5 2012-02-17
>         >              Key fingerprint = B051 E099 25D1 CE50 54DF
>         >          227D 96FC 24AC 4E1C D0E5
>         >         uid                  SafeKeep (Signing Key)
>         >         <safekeep-de...@lists.sourceforge.net>
>         >         sub   1024g/6AA3270F 2012-02-17
>         >         
>         >         NOTE: The minimum version of Python now supported is
>         >         Python 2.3.  If you
>         >         require support of an older version of Python, then
>         >         you should select an
>         >         earlier release of Safekeep.
>         >         
>         >         To find out more about the project visit on our
>         >         website:
>         >          http://safekeep.sourceforge.net
>         >         
>         >         --
>         >         Frank Crawford <fr...@crawford.emu.id.au>
>         >         for Dimi Paun <d...@lattica.com>
>         >         Lattica, Inc.
>         >         
>         >         
>         >         
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