Another 2 pence.  Nik is clearly hijacking my thoughts.

I had the same thoughts on fluoro - include a flag that would allow/disallow
counting fluorine at all, and reduce it to aromatic fluorine only.  I opted
to consider that I would modify the definition myself, but on further
consideration that might be problematic if any of my code (or someone
else's) becomes available for public consumption.  Differing definitions
might create problems with performance or interpretation.

-Kirk




On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> maybe I have to rephrase a little.
>
> With respect to fluoro - the best way to put it would be:
>
> ... if at all I would reduce it to aromatic fluoro only ...
>
> Hence, personally I would leave th fluoro out of the general acceptor
> definition. I know there is cases where you find them but the frequency is
> really not comparable to things like carbonyls or similar (i.e. the rest of
> your query). Maybe something like a "useFluoro" flag which is by default set
> to false?
>
> Hope that clarifies things a little.
>
> Nik
>
>
>
>  *"Greg Landrum" <[email protected]>*
>
> 29.10.2008 06:20
>   To
> [email protected]  cc
>   Subject
> Re: [Rdkit-discuss] H-bond Acceptor problem
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Robert DeLisle <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I agree with Nik an additional 2 pence.  In fact, while reading Greg's
> > original note, my thoughts were essentially identical to Nik's comments.
>
> Excellent. Here's an altered proposal based on Nik's comments.
>
> The definition of NumHAcceptors will be modified (modifications
> discussed below). I won't make any changes to the NOCount or NHOHCount
> descriptors or introduce new names for them. The new names would
> conceivably break existing code and wouldn't really contribute to
> clarity of future code, so the change doesn't seem worth making.
>
> For the purposes of fixing the more complex HAcceptor descriptor I
> propose the following SMARTS:
> HAcceptorSmarts = Chem.MolFromSmarts('[$([O,S;H1;v2]-[!$(*=[O,N,P,S])]),\
> $([O,S;H0;v2]),$([O,S;-]),\
> $([N;v3;!$(n-...@[o,N,P,S])]),\
> $([nH0,o,s;+0]),\
> $(F-a)]')
>
> There are two changes here relative to the current definition: the
> third line and the last one.
> The third line includes nitrogens that have three neighbors and that
> are not connected to another atom that has a non-ring double bond to
> O, N, P, or S. The last line includes Fs that are connected to an
> aromatic atom.
>
> Comments?
> -greg
>
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