Noel pointed out I probably wasn't clear with the CCG comment. RDKit uses
this algorithm which is what I was referring to -
http://www.chemcomp.com/journal/chiral.htm

Just to clarify - you're showing all images from MarvinSketch JS. How are
you putting the data in to the editor?

John

Regards,
John W May
[email protected]

On 8 September 2015 at 13:58, Michał Nowotka <[email protected]> wrote:

> As I'm not a chemistry expert, let me forward a message from my colleague,
> which shows another example, where RDkit seems to return incorrect results:
>
>
>   MJ150720
>
>  14 14  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0999 V2000
>    -4.9107    0.2893    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -5.6251   -0.1231    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -5.6251   -0.9482    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -4.9107   -1.3607    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -4.1962   -0.9482    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -4.1962   -0.1231    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -2.7675    0.8911    0.0000 O   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -2.7673   -0.1231    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -3.3923   -0.7249    0.0000 N   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -3.3701   -1.7178    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -2.0528    0.2893    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -3.8707    0.9392    0.0000 H   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -3.3925    0.2670    0.0000 C   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>    -1.9262   -0.5010    0.0000 H   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0
>   1  2  2  0  0  0  0
>   2  3  1  0  0  0  0
>   3  4  2  0  0  0  0
>   4  5  1  0  0  0  0
>   5  6  2  0  0  0  0
>   6  1  1  0  0  0  0
>   8 11  1  0  0  0  0
>   6 13  1  0  0  0  0
>  13  8  1  0  0  0  0
>  13  7  1  1  0  0  0
>  13 12  1  6  0  0  0
>   8 14  1  1  0  0  0
>   8  9  1  6  0  0  0
>   9 10  1  0  0  0  0
> M  END
>
> Taking this example of (-)-ephedrine (1R,2S) and depicting it as shown in
> this webpage (
> http://www2.chemistry.msu.edu/faculty/reusch/VirtTxtJml/sterism3.htm “Two
> or more chiral centres") - we can see that marvin gives the correct stereo
> centres.
>
> And after cleanup, it’s still the same:
>
>
> RDKit however, gives this (it’s mislabeled a hydrogen, lets clean it up)
>
>
> After cleanup, the stereo centres are still incorrect.
>
>
>
>
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