Hi Greg.

Thks for your gist. I guess the line:

nbrs = [(x.GetOtherAtomIdx(1),x.GetIdx()) for x in atom.GetBonds()]

should be:
nbrs = [(x.GetOtherAtomIdx(atom.GetIdx()),x.GetIdx()) for x in atom.GetBonds()]


On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 5:38 PM Greg Landrum <greg.land...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What's going on here is that the RDKit defines stereochemistry based on
> the ordering of bonds, not atom indices.
> This has come up on the list multiple times, a relatively recent instance
> is here:
>
> https://www.mail-archive.com/rdkit-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg08955.html
>
> Here's a gist that I have laying around that may help here:[1]
> https://gist.github.com/greglandrum/9f0e068e53171174b6797348eca64b3e
>
>
> -greg
> [1] Now if only I could find *why* have that gist laying around...
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 3:32 PM Rasmus "Termo" Lundsgaard <
> termope...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Pablo,
>>
>> thank you for the heads up on that removeHs is not honorred when not
>> sanitizing (and that removeH has to be done to solve that issue here).
>>
>> Now I tried with the same molecule but where I also move around on the
>> order of the atoms (attached as Ran1_neworder.sdf), and here I still get a
>> different isomeric smiles, eventhough the chiral tag is the same:
>> for f in ['Ran1.sdf','Ran2.sdf', 'Ran1_neworder.sdf']:
>>     m = Chem.MolFromMolFile(f, sanitize=False)
>>     m = Chem.RemoveHs(m, sanitize=False)
>>     print( Chem.MolToSmiles(set_correct_Chiral_flags(m),
>> isomericSmiles=True) )
>>
>>
>> C[C@@H](N)C(=O)O
>> C[C@@H](N)C(=O)O
>> C[C@H](N)C(=O)O
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 2:58 PM Paolo Tosco <paolo.tosco.m...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rasmus,
>>>
>>> the problem is that, as stated in the rdmolfiles.MolFromMolFile() docs,
>>> the removeHs option is only honored when sanitize is True.
>>>
>>> So to obtain sensible results without sanitizing you should rather do
>>> something like:
>>>
>>> m1 = Chem.MolFromMolFile('Ran1.sdf', sanitize=False)
>>> m1 = Chem.RemoveHs(m1, sanitize=False)
>>> print( Chem.MolToSmiles(set_correct_Chiral_flags(m1),
>>> isomericSmiles=True) )
>>> m2 = Chem.MolFromMolFile('Ran2.sdf', sanitize=False)
>>> m2 = Chem.RemoveHs(m2, sanitize=False)
>>> print( Chem.MolToSmiles(set_correct_Chiral_flags(m2),
>>> isomericSmiles=True) )
>>>
>>> You may check the individual sanitization operations here:
>>>
>>> https://www.rdkit.org/docs/source/rdkit.Chem.rdmolops.html?highlight=rdmolops%20sanitizeflags#rdkit.Chem.rdmolops.SanitizeFlags
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> p.
>>>
>>> On 03/12/2019 12:46, Rasmus "Termo" Lundsgaard wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I would like to avoid sanitizing the sdf files, as information in these
>>> files should be seen as the ground truth.
>>>
>>> I however have some problems in figuring out how to read and set chiral
>>> information from the file and also have RDkit behave the same always.
>>> Attached are two sdf files with no 3d information and only stereo
>>> information in the atoms section for R-Aniline. The only difference as I
>>> see it is the order of the lines of the bond information.
>>> Even so I get two different smiles back with isomeric information when
>>> not sanitizing.
>>>
>>> Attached is also the minimal python code: which for me at least outputs:
>>>
>>> not setting chiral flags
>>>> CC(N)C(=O)O
>>>> CC(N)C(=O)O
>>>>
>>>> setting chiral flags
>>>> [H]OC(=O)[C@]([H])(N([H])[H])C([H])([H])[H]
>>>> [H]OC(=O)[C@@]([H])(N([H])[H])C([H])([H])[H]
>>>>
>>>> setting chiral flags and sanitize
>>>> C[C@@H](N)C(=O)O
>>>> C[C@@H](N)C(=O)O
>>>>
>>>
>>> Any ideas to why this happens and how I can handle it strictly. Also
>>> what does the sanitizing exactly do?
>>>
>>> Regards Rasmus
>>>
>>>
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