Jim,  I worked on the design and installation of numerous systems for the State 
Parks here in MN, using a variety of end loads however most consisted of the 
configuration you mention.  We used the Mapps exterior mounted uninsulated 
boxes because they are vandal-proof.  I know because someone tried to use a 
pry-bar on one of them and never broke through.  We also used the AGM batteries 
from Interstate, so far they have exceeded our expectations.  This was well 
over 7 years ago and as far as I know, still putting out the required power.  
We did design the batteries for only ~10 % discharge during worst conditions 
(-20F) and used an LBC to ensure protection as the Morningstar charger could 
not meet our requirements.  I would hope with MPPT you could minimize system 
cost/size, don't skimp on BOS, you've got to design for the long haul.

Mario Monesterio
Best Power Intl.
651.428.8397
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: North Texas Renewable Energy Inc 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:40 AM
  Subject: [RE-wrenches] Off grid outdoor lighting


  Wrenches
  a general contractor working on upgrades to a VA hospital has come up with 
the big idea to use a series of lighted directional signs and landscape lights 
along the driveway  and walkways leading to the building complex. 
  To come up with a design to power these standalone natural stone monuments to 
government overspending and using the GCs choice of 12 VDC, 24 W lamps, 
http://www.greenenergymgmt.com/t8.html , I began with my years old off-grid 
sizing worksheet. 
  It dawned on me that simply scaling the design factors down by a factor of 
ten might not give the efficiency results like a full sized off-grid house 
would. I'm going on the assumption that off-grid design has become more fine 
tuned considering the choices of MPPT and other controller technology helping 
to extend battery life. 
  Anyway, the entire BOS will be outdoors and battery housing will probably not 
be insulated from temperature extremes, considering that they may be in full 
sun all summer, I want ample ventilation. Probably will use 2-6V AGMs to power 
the 4 lamps through a Morningstar 10 A 12V controller. 
  I looked for pre-manufactured DC lighting kits but came away with little that 
appealed to me. Unless someone can point me toward a very reliable kit I will 
go with a scratch built system, battery box on a short PV pole style. Any tried 
& true design advice would be much appreciated. 
  best regards

  Jim Duncan
  North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
  4029 Aragon Drive
  Fort Worth, Texas 76133
  817.917.0527
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Serving North Texas since 1994.
  For more information www.ntrei.com
  References? http://www.findsolar.com/



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